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Originally Posted by andrews2547 View Post

No, it means Steve had the idea for a phone in 1985. Maybe you should read what Stealth Pyros wrote. And I never said "Apple had an idea for the iPhone in the 80s." I said
And I just noticed I typo, it's meant to say "for a phone". A phone, not iPhone

Right and Pyros specifically mentioned the iPhone and you replied with a pointless patent for an Apple shaped phone.
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The point is, it's a phone and it's from Apple.

Actually, it's a phone from GTE and it's a plastic shell in the form of an Apple logo.

So the point that "it's a phone and it's from Apple" is pointless. There have been hundreds, if not thousands of phone patents before even this one. A patent is for a SPECIFIC idea (and that is totally different than a TRADE MARK, like the WORD "iPhone"), so you "point" is pointless.

That plastic shell on a GTE flip phone, isn't even CLOSE to what the real iPhone is, or what the Brazilian one is ... and you know it.
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lol hahahahhaa thumb.gif right on
 
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post #34 of 61
They will gives them a big paycheck to get it back, like what they did to get icloud.com domain name for example.
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post #35 of 61
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"Apple can also continue to sell iPhone-branded handsets in what is Latin America's biggest market - however, Gradiente has an option of suing for exclusivity."

"INPI added that Apple had argued that it should have been given full rights since Gradiente had not released a product using the iPhone name until December 2012."


Lol.... so sad companies have to resort to stealing the name of Apple products. Guess designs aren't obvious enough these days.

You do know how copyright laws work right?

Apple never owned the name even in the US. Cisco owned it (and according to my friend at Cisco, they still own it, but license it exclusively to Apple). Same with the company in Brazil. They owned the name long before Apple started tagging an "i" on to everything they could. Just because you haven't released a product with the name, doesn't mean you lose rights to that name once you trademark it.


EDIT: Woops, someone (several someones) already jumped on this...

carry on...
Edited by airbozo - 2/13/13 at 12:29pm
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post #36 of 61
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Lol...... so sad when people on these forums fail to comprehend news articles...

They trade marked the iPhone name in 2000, Apple didn't release the iPhone till 2007.... so how did they steal from Apple again?

I will admit that this Brazilian company is being sort of a trademark troll, but still it's good to see apple getting a dose of their own legal medicine.


If they filled for a trademark in 2000, how can they be trolls ? Cell phones from the early 2000's were nothing like the iPhone, so they couldn't guess the iPhone from 2007 and forward would become so successful.

They might have found out that Apple had filled for a trademark on the iPod name (which was released in 2001, so the brand must have been trademarked before), and may have thought that a future product could be a phone. But all of this is very debatable and even possibly far-fetched. Nobody in 2000 knew the iPod, and unreleased product, would become successful, nor did they have any idea if, after the success of the iPod, Apple would release an iPhone.

The argument is, there are a lot of ifs in this whole story for a court to determine they are trolls.

Let's not forget that Cisco also had a trademark for an iPhone, and they reached an agreement with Apple, so it's not as if Apple was being original.

Also, if we are going to extend the argument, we might as well go to one of the companies that could sue Apple.

Intel.



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Let's not forget about one of my favorite "i-devices" I've ever owned ...

Hewlett Packard iPAQ, which dates back to 2001.

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I don't normally defend Apple, but this is utterly pathetic of that Gradiente Eletronica company.

It isn't like GE had a phone out at the same time as the iPhone came out and were like, "Yo, we already have an iPhone released"...

Instead, they waited for years, after Apple has already established the iPhone name around the world. That's complete crap.
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I don't normally defend Apple, but this is utterly pathetic of that Gradiente Eletronica company.

It isn't like GE had a phone out at the same time as the iPhone came out and were like, "Yo, we already have an iPhone released"...

Instead, they waited for years, after Apple has already established the iPhone name around the world. That's complete crap.

I get it, Apple has been a patent whore and that has been annoying. But, this still isn't right. >_<</div>

You're getting this all wrong.

Gradiente hasn't done anything. Apple took this matter to court to win the trademark over. Apple applied for their trademark in Brazil in 2006 and were denied because the trademark is already taken. Now they lost in court because Gradiente has held the trademark since 2000. No suing has gone on yet, but it's looking more like Apple was asking for it to happen and hopefully it does.

Edited by Stealth Pyros - 2/13/13 at 2:16pm
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post #40 of 61
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You're getting this all wrong.

Gradiente hasn't done anything. Apple took this matter to court to win the trademark over. Apple applied for their trademark in Brazil in 2006 and were denied because the trademark is already taken. Now they lost in court because Gradiente has held the trademark since 2000. No suing has gone on yet, but it's looking more like Apple was asking for it to happen and hopefully it does.

Right on the nail.
   
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