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Every time Apple is the company getting screwed by patents, a kitten is born, and the world becomes a better place.
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I don't normally defend Apple, but this is utterly pathetic of that Gradiente Eletronica company.

It isn't like GE had a phone out at the same time as the iPhone came out and were like, "Yo, we already have an iPhone released"...

Instead, they waited for years, after Apple has already established the iPhone name around the world. That's complete crap.

I get it, Apple has been a patent whore and that has been annoying. But, this still isn't right. >_<</div>

You're getting this all wrong.

Gradiente hasn't done anything. Apple took this matter to court to win the trademark over. Apple applied for their trademark in Brazil in 2006 and were denied because the trademark is already taken. Now they lost in court because Gradiente has held the trademark since 2000. No suing has gone on yet, but it's looking more like Apple was asking for it to happen and hopefully it does.

Oops. o_O
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Also, if we are going to extend the argument, we might as well go to one of the companies that could sue Apple.

Intel.



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Good point, however the courts have ruled that you cannot trademark a number which is why they changed the name of the i586 to the "Pentium".
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Good point, however the courts have ruled that you cannot trademark a number which is why they changed the name of the i586 to the "Pentium".

I know that, but that wasn't the point I was making, it's the use of the letter "i" to distinguish a product. Just like nobody can get a trademark for a phone called "phone" because it's a generic term to actually describe what the device is (or part of what it is). Regarding the 80486, I don't remember exactly what the court said, but I guess Intel could indeed trademark i486 for example, they just couldn't trademark 80486 or 486, and thus competitors were allowed to use the same designation, even though they couldn't use the "i" before it, but that wasn't good enough for Intel because that meant that most of the name on its own wasn't protected and that was the part most people knew the product for.
 
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I don't normally defend Apple, but this is utterly pathetic of that Gradiente Eletronica company.

It isn't like GE had a phone out at the same time as the iPhone came out and were like, "Yo, we already have an iPhone released"...

Instead, they waited for years, after Apple has already established the iPhone name around the world. That's complete crap.

I get it, Apple has been a patent whore and that has been annoying. But, this still isn't right. >_<</div>

Yeah I misread it too, initially. The title and articles are both written very poorly.
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They (Gradiente) trademarked the name in 2000; years before the iPhone was even an idea in a neuron in Steve Jobs's brain.

sure they did, but the brazilian company probably created it in response to the ipod. in instances like this, it seems like you should actually have to bring a product to market. otherwise you just look like a patent troll.

either way, what they did was technically legal (similar thing happened in china). and realistically, why wouldn't brazil defend the interests of their companies? nonetheless, what i expect is a settlement deal where apple pays them a bunch of money to get exclusivity for the name
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They (Gradiente) trademarked the name in 2000; years before the iPhone was even an idea in a neuron in Steve Jobs's brain.

sure they did, but the brazilian company probably created it in response to the ipod. in instances like this, it seems like you should actually have to bring a product to market. otherwise you just look like a patent troll.

either way, what they did was technically legal (similar thing happened in china). and realistically, why wouldn't brazil defend the interests of their companies? nonetheless, what i expect is a settlement deal where apple pays them a bunch of money to get exclusivity for the name

Nope.jpg, iPod released in 2001, as was its first ever unveiling.
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Let's see if the company registered the patent under "iphone", because if Apple can make a point that the spelling is different, which it is by one capital letter in "iPhone", Apple might win the court case. 

Not that I would care anyway though. :P Either that, or they lose the case and pay Gradiente a lot of money. Maybe even the Brazilian government might intervene into this and lower prices of the iPhone in Brazil as a charge against Apple.

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Pretty Important. Brasil is the 5th largest economy on the planet. (Maybe 4th now)
 
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now can i buy that android iphone outright? i'd skin it like iOS just to rub it in
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