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Umm,you know you void any and all warranty when you overclock,right? rolleyes.gif

Ok guys chill. Missing the point of the thread. What we need is someone to confirm that this reading taken on the pins above the cpu pictured a few posts back is inline with what cpu-z is showing on a differently branded board. If you want to look at this as evidence in "your case" its worth $20 and a trip to radio shack. Who has a differently branded board? Or should i open this up to everybody in the motherboard section with a new thread?

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What i got from Asrock after i emailed them : Expand (Click to show)
The point that you measure is very close to vcore, but still not the real value.
Because there has the distance between the point and CPU.
Of course this distance has a little resistor, it will reduce the voltage from capacitor.
So the value almost similar to the vcore.
We suggest to refer the vcore from BIOS.
That was my email to them: Expand (Click to show)
When measuring from the VT1,the value with the DMM is pretty much the same as the one reported in the BIOS & CPU-Z.Just,isn't voltage readings supposted to be done from the back of the motherboard? I've seen reviews of motherboards and they measure the voltage from them pins on the back.I've attached a photo in which i show for which pins on the back of the mobo i'm talking.I have always measured voltage from them on other motherboards. The correct output to the CPU is from the capacitors which have 1 leg within in the power plane which feeds the CPU and one in the ground, not a spot that reports the voltage to the SuperIO, since when has ANY voltage read point been at a point far away from the VRM? I've kinda novice at this, but I understand enough about circuits and all to understand that you'd need to measure it IN the loop.Can you measure from the rear output and see if there is a difference?
I had the picture from the OP attached in which he shows the two points from which he was measuring.
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What i got from Asrock after i emailed them : Expand (Click to show)
The point that you measure is very close to vcore, but still not the real value.
Because there has the distance between the point and CPU.
Of course this distance has a little resistor, it will reduce the voltage from capacitor.
So the value almost similar to the vcore.
We suggest to refer the vcore from BIOS.


That was my email to them: Expand (Click to show)
When measuring from the VT1,the value with the DMM is pretty much the same as the one reported in the BIOS & CPU-Z.Just,isn't voltage readings supposted to be done from the back of the motherboard? I've seen reviews of motherboards and they measure the voltage from them pins on the back.I've attached a photo in which i show for which pins on the back of the mobo i'm talking.I have always measured voltage from them on other motherboards. The correct output to the CPU is from the capacitors which have 1 leg within in the power plane which feeds the CPU and one in the ground, not a spot that reports the voltage to the SuperIO, since when has ANY voltage read point been at a point far away from the VRM? I've kinda novice at this, but I understand enough about circuits and all to understand that you'd need to measure it IN the loop.Can you measure from the rear output and see if there is a difference?
I had the picture from the OP attached in which he shows the two points from which he was measuring.

Thats why i need it dome exactly the same way on a different brand. If he tells the truth it should be high there also. If it isnt they are lying.
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What i got from Asrock after i emailed them : Expand (Click to show)
The point that you measure is very close to vcore, but still not the real value.
Because there has the distance between the point and CPU.
Of course this distance has a little resistor, it will reduce the voltage from capacitor.
So the value almost similar to the vcore.
We suggest to refer the vcore from BIOS.
That was my email to them: Expand (Click to show)
When measuring from the VT1,the value with the DMM is pretty much the same as the one reported in the BIOS & CPU-Z.Just,isn't voltage readings supposted to be done from the back of the motherboard? I've seen reviews of motherboards and they measure the voltage from them pins on the back.I've attached a photo in which i show for which pins on the back of the mobo i'm talking.I have always measured voltage from them on other motherboards. The correct output to the CPU is from the capacitors which have 1 leg within in the power plane which feeds the CPU and one in the ground, not a spot that reports the voltage to the SuperIO, since when has ANY voltage read point been at a point far away from the VRM? I've kinda novice at this, but I understand enough about circuits and all to understand that you'd need to measure it IN the loop.Can you measure from the rear output and see if there is a difference?
I had the picture from the OP attached in which he shows the two points from which he was measuring.

Hahahahha that is the exact same copypaste email I got from them lol, that is seriously funny biggrin.gif
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Well, if a large % of users are reporting certain overclocks at what they think is a certain voltage, and if you had a large number of overclocks from different motherboards arranged in a chart, and you notice that Asrock was achieving these overclocks at lower voltages than the other boards, like Gigabyte, asus, etc., then either Asriock has a superior circuit design or Asrock is not reporting accurate voltages. Are temps higher with Asrock than other boards at the same reported voltage?
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Ok guys chill. Missing the point of the thread. What we need is someone to confirm that this reading taken on the pins above the cpu pictured a few posts back is inline with what cpu-z is showing on a differently branded board. If you want to look at this as evidence in "your case" its worth $20 and a trip to radio shack. Who has a differently branded board? Or should i open this up to everybody in the motherboard section with a new thread?

What board you want me to test? I have most of the gigabyte lineup and I have time today.
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What board you want me to test? I have most of the gigabyte lineup and I have time today.

Whatever your choice or choices would be fine with me. Thanks for testing this Sin!
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What board you want me to test? I have most of the gigabyte lineup and I have time today.

I guess everything you have if you got the time for it? Just to see if it is an issue with AsRock or are we really measuring from wrong places (Which I don't think we are but).
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What board you want me to test? I have most of the gigabyte lineup and I have time today.
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I guess everything you have if you got the time for it? Just to see if it is an issue with AsRock or are we really measuring from wrong places (Which I don't think we are but).
UD3H or D3H ,i think they're the only one in the price range of the Z77 Extreme4.
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1) dont flame
2) ill sue who ever i want
3) if a product is faulty and is causing damage to another product and i have proof it does, why would you just throw 300 down the whole and say meh better luck next time.
4)ignorance is bliss thumb.gif

I wasn't flaming, lol. But really, I want to see you take a large corporation to court over $300. It's not like you can just take them to small claims court, lol.
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