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Have you tried turning down your RAM speed? 2400 is pretty aggressive for Ivy. I'd put it back to 1600 until you get the chip overclocked - the instability you are seeing is probably memory, not the CPU.

What is your actual delivered Vcore under load (read by CPU-Z)? If the voltages you are listing are what you are putting in the BIOS, your actual voltage could be much lower, depending on your LLC/Vdroop.
Edited by Forceman - 2/13/13 at 10:12pm
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Originally Posted by moey1974 View Post

Be careful going too far over 1.3 volts for the 3570k, in fact i would never go to 1.4 volts with a 3570k, i know of three people frying their chip at that voltage. So be careful.

Personally from the extensive research i've done and from hours of my own experience... going over 4.4ghz with a 3570k takes a lot of time to find that sweet spot unless you got a Golden Chip or Water Cooling but its very possible on air (to get 4.6ghz. In fact tonight i am going back to 4.6ghz, i was there before but i found a tad instability at that clock on my 3570k. I use a EVO 212+ CPU Cooler with push/pull air < push/pull means two fans on the cpu heatsink..one fan sucking in the cool air into the heatsink and back fan sucking the hot air out to the PC case back fan. It helps a little bit with keeping the CPU cooler than rather only having one 120mm cpu fan.

I wish i could help you more but simply cannot because i have a Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 motherboard and it's simply too hard to try and give you advice when you have a completely different mobo. Each mobo from various manufacturers all have their own niche to get a solid OC. My best advice is to google this..as in my case i googled "asrock z77 Extreme 4 3570K overclock" and i guarantee you will find many other threads from various forums from the google results of searching exactly what i did above and i suggest you find threads that have your exact mobo and cpu for overclocking. This is what i did and i found around 10 excellent threads via google that are specfically related to my exact mobo and cpu overclocking.

I did notice from your pictures though that you do not have a few things disabled that i noticed which should be no matter what mobo brand you have. You should have this configured below...granted your mobo does not exactly say exact what my mobo says for the options below but i noticed you had some of these enabled which should be disabled.

This is what i have below...

Enhanced Halt State (C1E): Enabled
CPU C3 State Support: Disabled (always keep disabled)
CPU C6 State Support: Disabled (always keep disabled)
Package C State Support: Disabled (always keep disabled)

Internal PLL Overvoltage: Disabled (I find this crucial to disabled for OC)
Speed Spectrum: Disabled (can be turned on or off)
Speed Step: Disabled (can be turned on or off but i turn back on after i find sweet OC spot)

I wont go any further than this because you have an entirely different mobo than I but i am sure more computer savvy guys in here with great experience can help you further. I personally have a decent amount of knowledge in OC'n but i tend to refrain from helping others that do not have the same or close to the same hardware as i do...to me its like comparing apples and oranges because of how drastically different mobo's have an affect on overclocking the same cpu you and i may have.

Just so you're aware, the ASRock board you own has bad mosfets. D-PAK mosfets
sinhardware.com/index.php/vrm-list

D-PAK mosfets are known to put out oodles of heat and are at the bottom tier.
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Have you tried turning down your RAM speed? 2400 is pretty aggressive for Ivy. I'd put it back to 1600 until you get the chip overclocked - the instability you are seeing is probably memory, not the CPU.
This is the default speed of this RAM and it is certified for this MB. But I'll make a try with underclocked RAM.
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What is your actual delivered Vcore under load (read by CPU-Z)? If the voltages you are listing are what you are putting in the BIOS, your actual voltage could be much lower, depending on your LLC/Vdroop.
Here's the vcore graph of my last OCCT test:

CPU-Z reading is 1.404 under full load.
You can see my exact BIOS settings in the creenshots in the 1st post of this thread.
And, for info, the OCCT test at 4.6GHz - 1.410 Vcore made a BSOD 0x0000001e after a few minutes.
After looking at this thread, I'm wondering. Maybe I've just been very unlucky with this CPU drool.gif.
Edited by NHerby - 2/14/13 at 12:05am
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This is the default speed of this RAM and it is certified for this MB. But I'll make a try with underclocked RAM.

The motherboard may support it, but all that really means is that the BIOS will allow you to set it. The memory controller is on the CPU, and the default there is only DDR3-1600, so anything above that is overclocked. Ivy Bridge chips do have a better IMC than Sandy, but 2400 is still going to require some tweaking.
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So, I've moved the vcore back to 1.380V and set RAM freq to 1600MHz. OCCT test made a BSOD 0x0000001e after a few minutes.
I did not pay attention to this before but I think there is something wrong reagrding the RAM:
In CPU-Z, under memory tab, it says Single channel and DRAM frequency: 800.3MHz ?!?
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800 Mhz is right for DDR3-1600 because the freq is doubled. Do you have the sticks in the correct slots for dual channel? They normally go in alternate slots.
Edited by Forceman - 2/14/13 at 12:52am
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With the RAM in the correct slots, I now have dual channel... Stupid me!
I removed the XMP profile so the RAM runs at 1333MHz, made a test (again 4.6GHz and 1.380V) and still got a BSOD 0x0000001e after a few minutes.
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post #19 of 25
Could just be a bad chip like mine tongue.gif Mine I can atleast bring down the PLL to get lower temps.
post #20 of 25
alot of people tend to jump straight into OC without checking the ram 1st. I advice you to reset bios, reseat the rams, run memtest, reinstall windows. to make sure the rams are okay. then proceed with OC.
BTW did you by any chance update your bios via @bios?
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