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Should be an A10 vs 3225.
HD7770 does make the most sense, with I3 or FX-6300.
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Can you imagine why they built this processor?

I can not believe that behind this APUs you see only gaming machines ...

The future is fusion !smile.gif

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-New platofm with many features ( 6/8 native sata III, 4/6 native USB III, eyefinity - 3d)
-Upgradeable platform
-Overclocable igp + cpu
-Dual graphics = power efficient + with cumulative/ combinatorial power (crossfire) better than lucid virty technology ...
-Only for 120$ ....

AMD is about two years++ front of intel in open CL ...

How cares for crappy I3 ...if you consider all of the above, the I3s should not cost more than 50$

Comparing intel on board with an APU makes no sense really but ok. I understand that amd is making a step towards having this "fusion" of gpu/cpu but honestly I wouldn't buy that for ONE major reason.

I love gpu waterblocks, and the elegance they add to a loop.

ATM though the APUs are just not built for pc gamers...... I dont know a single pc gamer who doesnt like having eye candy, APU just cant give it.
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Like duh. Stuffing a huge die (6850 level) into a small package if you haven't guessed is not easy even if they downsized it to 32nm. Plus it would probably have thermals like a 3930k (130W)

What's the point in a APU if it has thermals like a SB-E? APUs weren't even targeted at gamers if you haven't guessed yet. Budget gamers yes probably but if you wanted a seriously tiny M-ITX build (Possibly no PCI-E needed either) in a case tall enough for the stock cooler the A10-5700 can be a godsend for light gaming (Don't involve BF3)

I know you have a A10 but look on the horizon.Please.For.Gods.Sake
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Comparing intel on board with an APU makes no sense really but ok. I understand that amd is making a step towards having this "fusion" of gpu/cpu but honestly I wouldn't buy that for ONE major reason.

I love gpu waterblocks, and the elegance they add to a loop.

ATM though the APUs are just not built for pc gamers...... I dont know a single pc gamer who doesnt like having eye candy, APU just cant give it.

why ?

Both AMD and Intel want to do the same ... Acceleration with IGP ...
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Like duh. Stuffing a huge die (6850 level) into a small package if you haven't guessed is not easy even if they downsized it to 32nm. Plus it would probably have thermals like a 3930k (130W)

There is a problem with DDR3s memory bandwidth, if put an 6850 into APU .. now ..
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Like duh. Stuffing a huge die (6850 level) into a small package if you haven't guessed is not easy even if they downsized it to 32nm. Plus it would probably have thermals like a 3930k (130W)

What's the point in a APU if it has thermals like a SB-E? APUs weren't even targeted at gamers if you haven't guessed yet. Budget gamers yes probably but if you wanted a seriously tiny M-ITX build (Possibly no PCI-E needed either) in a case tall enough for the stock cooler the A10-5700 can be a godsend for light gaming (Don't involve BF3)

I know you have a A10 but look on the horizon.Please.For.Gods.Sake

85% of this topic is about its gaming performance....yet again what do you consider light gaming?
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Honestly I just built 2 budget riggs, 1 with a a-10 5800k and 1 with a i3 2120. in gaming the i3 is faster about 10%-15% over the a-10, but what the a-10 had over the i3 was it's igpu. If you have a deditcated gpu already, the i3 would be the better buy. Only con about i3 is it wont overclock like the a-10, but then again it's faster at 3.3ghz comparedto the a-10's 4.2ghz boost.
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post #108 of 144
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Originally Posted by iMica View Post

85% of this topic is about its gaming performance....yet again what do you consider light gaming?


VFM for games are PHENOMS X4 , ATHLONS 750K with low budget mobo !!! They are cheap and you can bye a strong gpu (7850) ...in the same budget with a10-5800 + 6670 or i3 + 6670
Edited by adtakhs - 2/19/13 at 11:15am
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I have used it for my HTPC rig / portable rig for a while. It works very well.
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post #110 of 144
Its funny how people have either one extreme viewpoint or the other. Not many of us are looking at the a10 for what it actually is. Please stop posting cherry picked benchmark charts, it's pointless, it doesnt mean you won the debate.

The a10 provides an entry level GPU. It will not ever satisfy a PC Gaming enthusiast who keeps their system up to date with all the latest hardware.
The a10 allows system builders to make a PC that competes with a console price wise, WOW maybe we can convince our friends to build gaming PCs again!!
The a10 does in fact play 90% of new dx10 and 11 games at satisfactory framerates at 720p and 60% at 1080p. (yeah I just made that up, whatever Im sticking to it).
The a10 will provide adequate hardware acceleration for video and photo editing via openCL.

I am using this APU currently for my home PC and I do a fair amount of gaming as well as video and photo editing. I am not limited to flash games in the least. I have been trying and buying games from steam and enjoying the latest dx10-11 titles. I am certain, without a doubt, that I got more for my modest PC budget than I could have gotten before the a10 became available.

To illustrate this I threw together core components on newegg. I realize if you are building a Gaming system, option B is not where you would start. Option B represents the closest intel representation of what an a10 system gives you in terms of performance. I suppose it's 75% workstation/ 25% gaming PC on a tight budget.


Option A
MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 FM2 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$59.99

CORSAIR XMS 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
$44.99

AMD A10-5800K Trinity
$129.99
Subtotal: $234.97

Option B
PowerColor AX6670 1GBK3-H Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
$59.99


CORSAIR XMS 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
$44.99


ASRock H77M LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
$69.99


Intel Core i3-3220 Ivy Bridge
$129.99
Subtotal: $304.96
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