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I agree with bdenpaka- crossfire it and sit back and kick some fps! lol:D
     
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Originally Posted by Partol View Post

Instead of a A10 5800K (socket FM2), consider buying a Athlon II X4 750K (socket FM2) + discrete graphics card
In my area, Athlon II X4 750K costs $50 less than A10 5800k.
no need to buy fast, expensive ram when using a discrete graphics card.

My old Q6600 PC (for work) recently broke while moving it, and I'm planning to replace it with the Athlon II X4 750K (for work PC).
For serious gaming, I would choose core i3 or higher.
Currently, I'm playing planetside 2 which is one of the most cpu bottlenecked games ever.
My overclocked core i3 530 @ 4.15GHz only does 30fps in very large battles.

In case anyone is interested, my core i3 530 @ 4.15GHz can create rar files (in winrar) approximately 3 times faster than my old 4-core Q6600 @ 3GHz.


I just don't see the point to a CPU without an iGPU on the FM2 platform. The whole platform was built around APU's. My motherboard has DVI, HDMI and Display port.
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Originally Posted by nz3777 View Post

Or you can add a radeon 6570 hd for around $50 dollars to your A-10 and run it in crossfire~! Really good performance from what ive heard! Iam considering building one for my wife and daughter...A-10S ROCK!
Oh good! I was hoping that it supported crossfire.
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Oh good! I was hoping that it supported crossfire.
Yes it does,the A10-5800K supports up to a HD6670,when paired with the on CPU HD6670,I've been told it's nearly as fast as the HD6870.
I have a 5800K,the only thing i've OC'd so far is the GPU to 1Ghz,the boost is noticeable even with only 1866Mhz ram.
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I just don't see the point to a CPU without an iGPU on the FM2 platform. The whole platform was built around APU's. My motherboard has DVI, HDMI and Display port.

You don't see the point?
Currently, I can buy a Athlon II X4 750K for $81 (full retail price) locally.
$81 for a new 4-core overclockable Trinity cpu !!
It's much cheaper than a A10-5800K or FX-4300 or core i3.
No need fast ram or extra ram (for the iGPU). Do need dedicated graphics card.
Unlike buying a FX-4300/6300, no need to update motherboard bios.
I checked and it appears most or all FM2 boards already support the Athlon II X4 750K.
     
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if you plan to play games at low to medium settings (without a dedicated GPU), its a fine processor.
That's good to know. Because I'm not new to computers but I am new to apu's
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Yes it does,the A10-5800K supports up to a HD6670,when paired with the on CPU HD6670,I've been told it's nearly as fast as the HD6870.
I have a 5800K,the only thing i've OC'd so far is the GPU to 1Ghz,the boost is noticeable even with only 1866Mhz ram.
Can you overclock the cpu part of it? Because I've been told that you can't.
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It is faster. Software is not mostly singlethreaded anymore. Plus the A10 can overclock, both the CPU and the IGP. The i3 is stuck at stock speeds.

And it costs the same.

To me, the i3 and low end i5s are absolutely out of the question, as the APU provides a much, much better value than them (giving similar CPU performance but up to 4X better graphics performance) and if you step into higher price tags (until around the 170€ mark), the FX83xx series dominates that segment.

Edit: And the step from 2133 to 2400 is very small, as you can appreciate. Mostly because they are loosening the timings so much, that latency hurts the performance more than the increase in speed improves it.

My memory kit can do 2300 at 9-11-10 with 1.7V, and I'm quite sure it would largely outperform Tom's test bench.


The A10 processors are something one needs to experiment by himself. I was expecting some nice IGP performance (aroud that of a Core2Duo and a GT430, or so; I thought back then). But when I got it, and started gaming on it at 1920x1080... I honestly couldn't believe that an IGP could be SO powerful. smile.gif
I do agree because everyone I talk to say to go with the i3 but But I have to disagree because of the value in this apu.
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Originally Posted by Partol View Post

You don't see the point?
Currently, I can buy a Athlon II X4 750K for $81 (full retail price) locally.
$81 for a new 4-core overclockable Trinity cpu !!
It's much cheaper than a A10-5800K or FX-4300 or core i3.
No need fast ram or extra ram (for the iGPU). Do need dedicated graphics card.
Unlike buying a FX-4300/6300, no need to update motherboard bios.
I checked and it appears most or all FM2 boards already support the Athlon II X4 750K.
Why an Athlon though? They are alright but if my graphics card died I would die trying to game on the onboard VGA.
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Originally Posted by yojofizz View Post

Can you overclock the cpu part of it? Because I've been told that you can't.


They lied... you Trinity apu's that are unlocked (K models) have great cpu overclock potential. 4.5ghz with decent cooling to be expected.
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