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Everything a CPU draws are just power leakages and that's not something that you can argue because i am a electronics engineer for my career biggrin.gif

Then you should know there's also other factors besides current leakage on a microprocessor. Even though heat is the most largely prevalent.

It is radiating an EMF too, and the processor itself is actually vibrating due to thermal stress (which is why some chips 'squeal'). That uses up energy as well

And, heat is actually escaping to the motherboard via the socket as well.

TDP only estimates what the heatsink should cope with. Nothing else.
   
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I always knew CPUs draw what they put out. How the heck did the FX-8350 put out 1/2 the consumption? I doubt it even actually had anything near 125W, probably really like 223W TDP since it's hot and slow

They changed the design from Bulldozer to implement hard flip-flops instead of soft ones, which cut the power consumption dramatically. My 8350 is no more of a power hog than my overclocked Thuban was.
     
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They changed the design from Bulldozer to implement hard flip-flops instead of soft ones, which cut the power consumption dramatically. My 8350 is no more of a power hog than my overclocked Thuban was.
Which made me smile thumb.gif
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How come this thread hasnt started discussing what the A10-6800K will do to the low-mid gaming market when it gets released?

Now thats an interesting view of this whole story.
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How come this thread hasnt started discussing what the A10-6800K will do to the low-mid gaming market when it gets released?

Now thats an interesting view of this whole story.

From what I've read, Richland isn't going to be that exciting. Same architecture, slightly higher speeds. Kaveri (Richland's follow-up) might be interesting, that is if AMD is still solvent by the time it's supposed to be released...
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From what I've read, Richland isn't going to be that exciting. Same architecture, slightly higher speeds. Kaveri (Richland's follow-up) might be interesting, that is if AMD is still solvent by the time it's supposed to be released...
To a person with 2 intel builds. Both K parts.
Seriously?
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From what I've read, Richland isn't going to be that exciting. Same architecture, slightly higher speeds. Kaveri (Richland's follow-up) might be interesting, that is if AMD is still solvent by the time it's supposed to be released...

Well... Hybrid crossfire with a 7XXX series card that can handle stuff all by itself should be mighty interesting in my oppinion smile.gif.

Gaming rigs will be built
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photoshop CS6

a10-5800k = killer !!!thumb.gifbiggrin.gif

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Seems like the dual core K Trinity's gpus are basically on par with the 9500gt/3650 and the A10's are basically like a 9600gso/4670. I guessing if you crossfire it with a 6670 then you could get 6750 like performance which isnt' bad for WOW/Diablo 3 type games at 1680 on full.

In the end it seems like just going with a FX 4300 or i3 along with a 7770 to start out with seems like a better option on a budget as i was having problems playing Far Cry 2 on max settings with a GSO back in 2008 and thats basically what the a10 is starting out. I am also convinced DDR3 isn't good for gaming. I had a 6670 ddr3 1GB and it performed much worse than my 5670 gddr5 1gb.

I am wondering however if the dedicated is gddr5 if it improves performance more than the ddr3 versions or if the gpu itself comes more into play in xfire over the memory bandwidth. It just seems like you are paying for new tech that basically caps out at 5750 performance which was really a mid range 2010 card.

The Virgo is super sexy for a laptop but as my main desktop for the future?
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3650? Dafuq? Has your head been shot to hell? It performs like a HD6570. Which if you are inclined to trace back generations means a thereotical HD4870
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