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120hz > 1440p imho.
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I own both. I wanted the IPS for general entertainment and the occasional rpg (witcher 2 etc) where colors would bring the game alive. I bought the Dell Alienware 120hz monitor for games like BF3 and TF2 and some WoW pvp. However I never use the 120hz because the extra viewing from 1440p gives more advantage than the 120hz. So 1440p all the way.

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Originally Posted by Booty Warrior View Post

Weren't those debunked a while ago? DisplayPort 1.2 is the only interface with enough bandwidth to potentially support 1440p @120Hz, which these monitors lack.
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Wrong. Dual Link DVI is capable of the bandwidth needed (I know because I am doing it myself). For a technical explanation why read this: http://overlordforum.com/topic/44-2560x1440-120hz-possible-over-dvi-d/#entry349

As you see from that post, discussion of 120Hz-capable 1440p IPS screens has been taboo on OCN for most of the past 12 months. The fact that an OCN mod linked to the Tempest X270OC in this very thread makes me dare to hope that we're now allowed to discuss this issue openly.
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From my main rig you can see I have the best of both worlds, but I also have seen and used regular 1440/1600 and regular 120hz screens, so from my own experience 1440>>>>>>>>>>>>>120hz and it's not even close to me.

Unless you professionally game the 120hz won't be as big of a gain as the pure quality and real estate that comes with QHD screens. Again, I have both but if I could only choose one the VASTLY better IPS screens on the QHD monitors would be my only choice and it wouldn't even be close.
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calibration hardware?
Most of the "premium" panels come factory-calibrated but the cheaper ones don't, so your image quality out of the box may be off. Colorimeters (Spyder4, ColorMunki, BlueEye etc) can correct that. It's not a big deal since I assume you're not doing design work, but if color accuracy is important to you, or you think you might want to run more than one monitor (and want them to actually match), it could be a good investment.

If you're curious, TFT Central has an in depth write up on it: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/calibrating.htm

Of course you can always try to eyeball it using the free Windows tool, or just download an ICC profile online, but nothing beats real hardware calibration. biggrin.gif
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i see you have an auria, i was thinking about going to MC and grab one, how do you like it? only thing im worried about is that they dont have the non AG ones anymore, i really like non AG monitors better.
Honestly my Auria surprised the hell out of me.

Before buying one, I kind of figured these "A- panels" would have some glaring defect or would be barebones on the features, but I was wrong on both counts. My Auria came pixel-perfect, without any backlight bleed or color banding, and with a full range of inputs (DP, HDMI, DL-DVI) and very comprehensive OSD (which made it very calibration friendly). Side by side with my U2711 I can't find any faults with it.

Mine is matte, but the AG isn't as grainy as it is on the U2711.

AFAIK the glossy ones are no longer being stocked, but the matte screens seem to have a better track record for being pixel-perfect thus far (going by other posts in the Auria thread). Unless gloss is a must have for you, I'd definitely recommend grabbing one.
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Originally Posted by Black Octagon View Post

Wrong. Dual Link DVI is capable of the bandwidth needed (I know because I am doing it myself). For a technical explanation why read this: http://overlordforum.com/topic/44-2560x1440-120hz-possible-over-dvi-d/#entry349

As you see from that post, discussion of 120Hz-capable 1440p IPS screens has been taboo on OCN for most of the past 12 months. The fact that an OCN mod linked to the Tempest X270OC in this very thread makes me dare to hope that we're now allowed to discuss this issue openly.
Hmm, interesting. I thought it was a physical pin in/out limitation to the cable.

There was another thread here recently claiming they actually frame skip and interpolate when "overclocked" using DL-DVI.
Edited by Booty Warrior - 2/14/13 at 6:01am
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i have a 120hz monitor.. and i tried a 1440 p monitor too; the 1440p its just great for general work, you can fit a lot of thing in there resizing the windows just a bit

gaming wise...

its very nice to "see more" of your enviroment in any kind of game.. BUT there is a great cons, the motion "blur" everytime you move there is "ghosting" (dont kill me for that, dont know the name exactly) you can actually SEE the past frame and the next one being drawed while you move around; some games is worst than other

after a while i just turned off the game and that was it.. i loved the "bigger" world/scene whatever you want to call it.. but long term, the choppy image//picture/scene whatever was worst than the gains.. at least for me

and dont be fooled by that "humans cant see past 60fps" crap, get a 120hz + a proper gpu/gpus and enjoy a WHOLE different feeling in gaming and everything else in your life

Best example for 120HZ: stay still in 1 place, move your head from side to side slowly and just watch around all the objects placed at the same distance of your eyes.. you see any blur/ghost/frame skipping?!?! thats what is 120hz (something like that biggrin.gif )

OH !!! if you want a pic from my Monitor as a prrof i can upload 1 thumb.gif
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calibration hardware? i see you have an auria, i was thinking about going to MC and grab one, how do you like it? only thing im worried about is that they dont have the non AG ones anymore, i really like non AG monitors better.

The Spyder4 Pro (I have the Elite) is a God-send when it comes to monitors or even televisions! It's one of those things where "ignorance is bliss", in a sense, because once you have a properly calibrated monitor/display, you can't ever use one again that isn't because the whole time you'll be thinking about how washed out, over-saturated, under-/over-gamma, etc, the screen is.

While I've used and owned a number of calibration "suites", including some that were 5-10x the price of the Spyder4, the S4-P/E is really the best bang-for-the-buck. When it comes to IPS and high quality panels, you will more likely than not be able to get all of the advertised color gamut, but even with cheaper monitors (yes, including TN), the difference can be huge! Going from ~65% sRGB to 75% sRGB while getting your gamma at a proper 2.2 and dropping the Delta-E by more than half produces a picture that you wouldn't have thought your display capable of.

IMO, if you spend $400 or more on a high-accuracy-capable display, there is no reason not to get a screen calibration device; in fact, I would say it should almost be a requirement!

(Hell, even my LAPTOP'S screen looks significantly better!!!)
   
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ive never personally used either of these, only used low end 1080p monitors. i really want a large display but i understand 27" TN is terrible at 1080p. i cant decide between the VG248QE 144hz or one of the korean 27" IPs

so those of you who have used both, is 120hz better on the eyes or is the larger pixel IPS monitor better? i dont game very regularly but when i go its D3 or a FPS (CoD, BF). what would be the best choice?

Based on what you said about gaming " i dont game very regularly" I would have to suggest the 1440p. The extra real estate is amazing.i can watch a movie, have spotify open and read the forums all at the same time on one screen.


I had the Viewsonic 120Hz monitor before 120hz is nice but the colors and resolution blow me away on the IPS 1440p monitors.

Some people say that there is ghosting on IPS, but honestly they seem like the hardcore type. I'm not so sure you'll notice. I play BF3 on mine, i don't notice any difference.
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I have a Dell U2713HM and Samsung S23A750D side by side. Both are nice displays, but I prefer the Dell overall. Samsung is noticeably smoother, and isn't particularly bad with it's colors or viewing angles for simple gaming use, but since it is glossy it does have big issues with reflections. Dell on the other hand has better colors and viewing angles overall, but in gaming use that's not necessarily as useful as 120 Hz. The matte panel is better in my fairly lit up room. Ultimately though it comes down to having higher res and size, while still offering good gaming. 60 FPS is quite ok for me in terms of smoothness even if I do appreciate the extra smoothness 120 Hz offers. At the end of the day my rig doesn't even have the necessary power for 2560x1440@120 Hz with good graphics settings.

I'm actually thinking of selling the Samsung and getting a cheaper IPS panel for my secondary display, since I don't really use it for gaming anymore. 3D Gaming has been disappointing in terms of support and performance, and I prefer to watch movies from my HDTV. It's unlikely that I'll switch to a different monitor any time soon. I had a 3x23" 1080p setup with the Samsung in the middle, which was a great compromise given that eyefinity support is sparse. I really liked eyefinity when it worked, but mostly it's an unsupported hassle and requires a lot of horse power from your rig. The 27" 2560x1440 solution is IMO the way to go if you want a great gaming experience without having to spend time troubleshooting with multi-display or 3D. Of course 120 Hz is a valid option for those who really feel 60 Hz isn't enough for their purposes. Personally I'd say only die hard no blur multiplayer FPS fans should consider 120 Hz over a higher res 60 Hz IPS panel.
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There was another thread here recently claiming they actually frame skip and interpolate when "overclocked" using DL-DVI.

That's half-true, but misses the mark. The frame skipping IS a real phenomenon, but has nothing to with the DVI connection.

Certain 1440p IPS monitors were marketed last year as being 120Hz-capable (including but not limited to a particular batch of Catleap Multis) - these allowed you to set 120Hz on the graphics card / Windows side but were not actually refreshing 120 times/second. These were, in my view, cases of particularly poor form from the manufacturers and/or their eBay sellers, who were aware of the overclocking craze and wanted to cash in on it.

All this was exposed a good half year ago or more for what it was and is now history (for the most part - if people get most of their news from places like OCN then they're possibly unaware of this, again because the topic of overclockable monitors has been taboo for most of the past year).

Edit:
Example of fake 120Hz screen advertised on eBay last year: http://www.ebay.com/itm/120Hz-Overclock-Yamakasi-Catleap-Q270-Multi-2560x1440-WQHD-S-IPS-Monitor-/320931213277?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item4ab8fdafdd
Edited by Black Octagon - 2/14/13 at 7:45am
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