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And yet, the big boy with clear financial advantage still castrates and locks their products. It's funny when you think about it, both Nvidia & Intel are in much better financial positions yet AMD offers comparable (on the cpu side) and better bargains on the gpu side.

Really speaks wonders about the team at AMD, now if only more money was there for some proper R&D. Tis a shame the 'big boys' don't spend the actual money on giving us worthwhile ugprades, not minor performance bumps.

Well said. I don`t entirely disagree with some of what you said here thumb.gif

Both Intel and Nvidia offer "worthwhile" upgrades though. GTX 680 saw 25% better performance with a 60% smaller die than 580. Talk about efficiency! Just wait til Titan. Its gonna be the same die size as GTX 580 but almost double the performance. Its gonna cost though, but thats common for like all the other GPUs from Nvidia. They still sell like crazy. You can see that from the financial results I just showed.

But yeah. AMD operates under a lot less margins than Nvidia and make less money. I have respect for the AMD team thumb.gif
Edited by Cloudfire777 - 2/14/13 at 11:35am
post #22 of 35
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^ Funny I knew you owned an AMD gpu before I even seen your sig. Companies dont want to give you the best product they can you spastic, they exist to make monies. And the one that makes more money usually has a better product, that it can afford to lock potential on because its still a great product - hence record profits. Argue with that fanboy.

I hate the fact that Kepler is castrated as much has the next person, but its like that because its the mid range card, if AMD were not soo crap, maybe Nvidia would have released the Titan as the mass market high end card like they where supposed to, but didn`t have to, hence made more money

NV is reporting professional and consumer as unified GPU revenue. Had they reported separately like last quarter, they would have shown how poorly their consumer GPU division is doing.
post #23 of 35
They got all this money for R&D

Too bad they practice designed obsolescence! Well, its good business I guess.... eitherway, Im sure they could make a 7xx card that would last 5+ years.
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OMG you nv fanboys are truly sick in the head.

NV is reporting professional and consumer as unified GPU revenue. Had they reported separately like last quarter, they would have shown how poorly their consumer GPU division is doing.

Source? I have information stating otherwise:

AMD (the company) reports Total financial results. In these results they have two departments:
- Computing solutions division (CPUs and APUs)
- Graphic division (GPUs, both consumer and professional)

Add those two up and you get the total revenue of that year or quarter. I don`t think AMD hides anything when they share these results with you know, the stock owners

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6383/amd-q3-2012-earnings-157m-loss-15-of-workforce-to-be-cut
Edited by Cloudfire777 - 2/14/13 at 11:44am
post #25 of 35
Not to nitpick here, but do all of you actually know how to interpret this data? It doesn't seem like it wink.gif The key figure to look at is not revenue, the figure that matters is net income; net income indicates the money left over after all deducting all expenses (such as wages, r+d, etc, etc) from the revenue, so these results aren't "record setting". The net income is actually lower than the prior quarter.

Using revenue in any sort of context is rather meaningless because it doesn't take expenses into account which are just deducted in the accounting equation.

That said, the results are very good. My key point here: look at net income, not revenue. Anyway, Kudos to them.
Edited by xoleras - 2/14/13 at 11:48am
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Source? I have information stating otherwise:

AMD (the company) reports Total financial results. In these results they have two departments:
- Computing solutions division (CPUs and APUs)
- Graphic division (GPUs, both consumer and professional)

Add those two up and you get the total revenue of that year or quarter

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6383/amd-q3-2012-earnings-157m-loss-15-of-workforce-to-be-cut

Yeah, sorry to be the one to break it to you. As of the latest report, NV is reporting professional and consumer as combined GPU revenue. No wonder it sounded to good to be true, it was! lol
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Yeah, sorry to be the one to break it to you fanboy. As of the latest report, NV is reporting professional and consumer as combined GPU revenue. No wonder it sounded to good to be true, it was! lol

And AMD does not because? Bring me a source where it states that AMD hides financial results from the stock owners or do two press releases...
I just gave you a link that stated otherwise.
I think you are full of it.
post #28 of 35
Don't know where Juliancahillane's post went (assumed it was edited besides the quoted one on this page) or if it was directed at me but to sum up a few points

-Some AMD cards are voltage locked, but that seems to be dependent on the manufacturer, it's not a mandatory lock by AMD
-My 7970GE is NOT voltage locked, and at that price point, you'd expect it wasn't - same cannot be said for the more expensive 680 which is outperformed stock vs stock anyways for a majority of titles
-My last card was an overclocked 480 that would surpass the frame rates of a stock 580 so let's not start the fanboy shenanigans

The only point I was making is the irony that the most struggling company is putting out overall, better bargain, better performing GPU's. Until the Titan hits, Nvidia doesn't have the single gpu performance crown - which is quite a feat again, considering the financial differences.

Same on the cpu front, the fact that AMD's 8 core are in the same leage as the i7's in multitasking all while selling for less than 200 bucks at this point is nothing short of outstanding considering the financial situation
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Does anyone know who has sold more cards up until now, AMD (HD7xxx) or Nvidia (GTX6xx)? I'm guessing AMD since they have that awesome bundle going on again but I"m not sure
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with the nexus 7 and windows 8 Ry sales..
no wonder.
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