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With TITAN looking like it will destroy anything on the market, there's no way the rumors were true. NVIDIA would have a completely dominated market for high end gamers if TITAN was the only card out this year. There's no way AMD would want that for an extended period of time.

(Edited because people can't seem to grasp what I meant.)
They wont dominate anything with a graphics card that will cost a grand at the very least .
Most people won't drop that amount of money on a graphics card even if they can afford.
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I'll believe it when I see it, every card always starts with limited quantities. If it sells well, they will make plenty.

First batch from Nvidia will be of 10 000 Titan`s. That covers Asus and EVGA cards.
But like GTX 690, its gonna be made little in the beginning and they will push out more once the production have peaked. Like you said thumb.gif
Edited by Cloudfire777 - 2/14/13 at 12:34pm
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No need for name calling or anything like that. Just keep it professional.
 
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I find it amusing that people talk about Titan as if it will hurt AMD's sales.

Let's be real here. That card will be priced out of the majority of people's budgets.
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of course there will always be better technology year after year, but nothing warrants the rumored costs of this Titan....
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The battle is won by NVIDIA selling to ISVs / workstation purchasers , and Tegra in tablets. They make money on Quadros with gimped compute and then sell you tesla to make maximus 2.0 money rolleyes.gif.

It's not going to be won by a limited run of $900 GPUs in a dying desktop market.

AMD is going into the console market strong, with hints of strengthening on Firepro compared to the only non-mobile Kepler Quadro, K5000. Nvidia has a stranglehold on mobile with the K1000M, K2000M, K3000M, K4000M, K5000M... you get my point. In apps like CATIA, a top end Firepro W8000 or W9000 does worse than the K5000M so basically AMD has a insane driver disadvantage.

GCN is so new but it takes time & money for things to catch up to CUDA. AMD has neither on their side. We see newer apps like Autocad 2013, Maya 2013, Solidworks , PTC Creo 2.0 where it dominates NVIDIA stuff at the low-midrange.
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I love these types on threads.. So entertaining tongue.gif
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You guys are all forgetting that this thing is a halo card. It will put a dent in AMD's sales. Not because people will buy Titan like crazy, but because there's a subset of enthusiasts who are ill-informed. They will look at Titan reviews, see how far ahead it is of 7970, and then assume that AMD sucks and Nvidia is awesome. They will then do something like turn around and buy a GTX 650.

That is the point of this card. Even selling a GK110 for $900 is horrible for Nvidia. Titan is supposed to have 14SMX units, K20x 15 SMX, and K20 13 SMX. K20 goes for $3,300.

Please tell me how you expect Nvidia to want to sell 14SMX GK110 for $900 over 13SMX GK110 for $3,300. It is a marketing stunt. If this is more available than GTX 590 was I will be amazed.

I've seen lots of people who don't understand things properly fall sucker to halo products. Put yourself in Nvidia's position. They are going to sell a GK110 for 27% of the price of what they normally get for it. They obviously think they will make that money up somewhere else, and that place is suckers who fall for halo product marketing.

Hell, I'd wager people will do things like google "nvidia review", find a Titan review, and then do something like buy a laptop with GT 610 because of the Titan review. Everyone seriously doubts the stupidity of the ill-informed psuedo-enthusiast.
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You guys are all forgetting that this thing is a halo card. It will put a dent in AMD's sales. Not because people will buy Titan like crazy, but because there's a subset of enthusiasts who are ill-informed. They will look at Titan reviews, see how far ahead it is of 7970, and then assume that AMD sucks and Nvidia is awesome. They will then do something like turn around and buy a GTX 650.

That is the point of this card. Even selling a GK110 for $900 is horrible for Nvidia. Titan is supposed to have 14SMX units, K20x 15 SMX, and K20 13 SMX. K20 goes for $3,300.

Please tell me how you expect Nvidia to want to sell 14SMX GK110 for $900 over 13SMX GK110 for $3,300. It is a marketing stunt. If this is more available than GTX 590 was I will be amazed.

I've seen lots of people who don't understand things properly fall sucker to halo products. Put yourself in Nvidia's position. They are going to sell a GK110 for 27% of the price of what they normally get for it. They obviously think they will make that money up somewhere else, and that place is suckers who fall for halo product marketing.

Hell, I'd wager people will do things like google "nvidia review", find a Titan review, and then do something like buy a laptop with GT 610 because of the Titan review. Everyone seriously doubts the stupidity of the ill-informed psuedo-enthusiast.

You dont only pay for the chip but also for drivers and support.Also the chips that failed to pass the tdp for tesla probably is the chips they will use on titan
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Please tell me how you expect Nvidia to want to sell 14SMX GK110 for $900 over 13SMX GK110 for $3,300. It is a marketing stunt. If this is more available than GTX 590 was I will be amazed.

The expensive thing about teslas isn't the amount of cuda cores they have, the chips are expensive because they're very much binned for as low as possible TDP. And another thing that greatly adds costs is the support for the product.

Based on die size costs GK110 shouldn't be any more expensive than GF110 was (or, well let's say GF100 since it also came with a cluster disabled).
 
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