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In this thread we will discuss the most consistent brands for all computer parts, including peripherals.

The brand can be specified for things like OCZ makes good SSD's but average PSU's. Model specific is ok too. Just make sure to specify.

Consistent doesn't mean it has to be consistently great, it can also be consistently bad.
I will be compiling the list in this post, that way people can easily use this as a resource for which brands are generally good.

This is for everything except processors, as there will just be a giant debate over which one is better, plus there isnt really any bad processors now adays, bad as in unreliable or poorly built. Basically just pick a processor from the last 2 -3 years and your good.

If something has an Asterisk * be sure to read the Asterisk section below for that product.

Cases (Click to show)
CASES

Great means
  • Great Airflow
  • Good Design
  • Mostly Steel/Aluminium, minimal Plastic
  • Sturdy
Average means
  • Decent Airflow
  • Alright design
  • Partially or mostly Plastic
Terrible means
  • Bad Airflow
  • Bad Design
  • Almost all Plastic or other breakable material




CONSISTENTLY GREAT
Coolermaster HAF series
Corsair
Silverstone

CONSISTENTLY AVERAGE


CONSISTENTLY TERRIBLE
Fans (Click to show)
FANS

Great means
  • Good CFM for its size
  • Well built / Sturdy
  • Quiet for its speed
  • Reliable
Average means
  • Decent CFM for its Size
  • Well built / Sturdy
  • Not very audible
  • Reliable
Terrible means
  • Bad airflow for
  • Flimsy
  • Audible


CONSISTENTLY GREAT
Coolermaster
Corsair

CONSISTENTLY AVERAGE


CONSISTENTLY TERRIBLE
GPUs (Click to show)
GPU'S
Graphic Card's

Great means
  • Quiet
  • Low temps
  • Sturdy
  • Very Overclockable
  • Reliable
Average means
  • Not very audible
  • Decent temps
  • Sturdy
  • Overclockable
  • Reliable
Terrible means
  • Very audible
  • Bad temps
  • Weak
  • Not very overclockable
  • Not very reliable


CONSISTENTLY GREAT
Asus
EVGA
Gigabyte
Sapphire
CONSISTENTLY AVERAGE
Powercolor
Zotac
CONSISTENTLY TERRIBLE
HDDs (Click to show)
HDD'S
Hard Disk Drives

Great means
  • Reliable
  • Long Lasting
Average means
  • Reliable
  • Not very long lasting
Terrible
  • Not Reliable
  • Doesn't Last Long


CONSISTENTLY GREAT
Seagate
Western Digital
CONSISTENTLY AVERAGE

CONSISTENTLY TERRIBLE
Monitor's (Click to show)
MONITORS

Great means
  • Great Picture Quality
  • Reliable
  • Sturdy
Average means
  • Decent Picture Quality
  • Reliable
  • Sturdy
Terrible means
  • Bad Picture Quality
  • Not Reliable
  • Weak


CONSISTENTLY GREAT
Asus
BenQ
CONSISTENTLY AVERAGE

CONSISTENTLY TERRIBLE
Motherboards (Click to show)
MOTHERBOARDS

CONSISTENTLY GREAT
Asus*
Gigabyte
CONSISTENTLY AVERAGE

CONSISTENTLY TERRIBLE

PSUs (Click to show)
PSU'S
Power Supplies

Great means
  • High Quality
  • Long Lasting
  • Reliable
  • Quiet
Average means
  • Good Quality
  • Lasts a while
  • Reliable
  • Quiet
Terrible
  • Bad Quality
  • Breaks quickly
  • Loud
  • Will catch your house on fire


CONSISTENTLY GREAT
Corsair
Seasonic
Sparkle (SPI)
XFX
CONSISTENTLY AVERAGE
OCZ
CONSISTENTLY TERRIBLE

Sound Cards (Click to show)
SOUND CARDS

CONSISTENTLY GREAT
Asus*
CONSISTENTLY AVERAGE

CONSISTENTLY TERRIBLE

SSDs (Click to show)
SSD'S
Solid State Drives

CONSISTENTLY GREAT
Samsung 830, 840 Pro
Kingston Hyper X 3K
Crucial M3
CONSISTENTLY AVERAGE

CONSISTENTLY TERRIBLE
RAM (Click to show)
RAM

CONSISTENTLY GREAT
Corsair
G.Skill
Samsung
CONSISTENTLY AVERAGE

CONSISTENTLY TERRIBLE


Peripherals (Mice, Keyboards, etc) (Click to show)
PERIPHERALS

CONSISTENTLY GREAT
Corsair
Logitech
CONSISTENTLY AVERAGE
Saitek (Madcats): Mice*, Keyboards*
CONSISTENTLY TERRIBLE




Astericks (Click to show)
Asus (Click to show)
Their Xonar sound cards have some software issues
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/240332-49-asus-xonar-software-driver-problems
Their Motherboards custom software has problems
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?22918-AISuite-won-t-install
Saitek (MadCatz) (Click to show)
Great products until they break, then good luck, their customer support is to be feared, and their RMA process doesn't exist.


I will periodically update this list, and remember, this is essentially a guide for new people to reference when they need to. If you have any problems with an item on the list, like it should be in a different category, don't be afraid to dispute it.
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I would like to point out that although ASUS has incredible hardware, their software is absolutely terrible in my experience. Particularly their sound card software. And their mobo utilities also are very buggy, and I am currently experiencing major bugs with their USB 3.0 drivers. And a quick google search shows I'm not alone.

Also, I think this thread may have good potential, but may have a bit of a chance for bias in it. For example: I have loved my OCZ power supplies. Not saying others haven't had bad experiences, but what is the criteria for "consistently bad" because for me OCZ PSU have been "Consistently Good". Just a thought.
Edited by Jolly Roger - 2/14/13 at 1:57pm
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB Samsung 850 EVO 500GB Kingston HyperX 3K 128GB Kingston SSDnow 128GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Caviar BLACK 500GB ASUS Blu-ray ASUS LightScribe SILVER ARROW SB-E 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 PRO 64-bit 3x ASUS VN248H (24" 1080p AH-IPS) Logitech G710+ Seasonic G-750 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM STORM:Trooper (DEFCON-3 MOD) Logitech MX Master Corsair MM600 CREATIVE Sound Blaster Z 
AudioOther
Audio Technica ATH-m50xbl Chill Factor III 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon X4 880k ASRock A88M-G/3.1 ASUS GTX 660ti HyperX Fury 8GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial MX300 750GB LG Blu-ray Windows 10 P502ui-b1 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Logitech k400r Rosewill Hive 550W ROSEWILL SRM-01 Vizio S4251W-b4 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X2 550 MSI 770-C45 Sparkle GT 220 4GB Corsair XMS3 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Western Digital 500GB Caviar Black Seagate Baracuda 1TB ASUS blu-ray Stock 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Proffesional  Acer 24"  Logitech Wave OCZ modXtreme Pro 600W 
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB Samsung 850 EVO 500GB Kingston HyperX 3K 128GB Kingston SSDnow 128GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Caviar BLACK 500GB ASUS Blu-ray ASUS LightScribe SILVER ARROW SB-E 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 PRO 64-bit 3x ASUS VN248H (24" 1080p AH-IPS) Logitech G710+ Seasonic G-750 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM STORM:Trooper (DEFCON-3 MOD) Logitech MX Master Corsair MM600 CREATIVE Sound Blaster Z 
AudioOther
Audio Technica ATH-m50xbl Chill Factor III 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon X4 880k ASRock A88M-G/3.1 ASUS GTX 660ti HyperX Fury 8GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial MX300 750GB LG Blu-ray Windows 10 P502ui-b1 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Logitech k400r Rosewill Hive 550W ROSEWILL SRM-01 Vizio S4251W-b4 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X2 550 MSI 770-C45 Sparkle GT 220 4GB Corsair XMS3 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Western Digital 500GB Caviar Black Seagate Baracuda 1TB ASUS blu-ray Stock 
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I would like to point out that although ASUS has incredible hardware, their software is absolutely terrible in my experience. Particularly their sound card software. And their mobo utilities also are very buggy, and I am currently experiencing major bugs with their USB 3.0 drivers. And a quick google search shows I'm not alone.
Can anyone else confirm this?
I won't remove it from the consistently great section, but I will probably be putting star's or something in and put a list down below with known problems and hopefully links to fixes.
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I don't get this thread at all.

OCZ definitely aren't consistent, up until the Vertex 4 many of their drives suffered from a variety of issues.

Corsair have had major issues with their Force series SSDs, the firmware and software for their peripherals has been glitchy, their hydro coolers have had huge pump issues and their Corsair Link software has only just become usable, these are just some off the top of my head.

Seasonic I would have to agree with because the majority of their products are great.

Asus are hit and miss, their products are generally overpriced, especially their motherboards and graphics cards. They have issues with their sound cards and their AI Suite software still does not work properly. Again this is just some things I can think of, I'm sure there's more.

All companies make bad and good products, it's always better to judge individual products rather than a company as a whole. The only thing that matters to do with the company is their customer service.
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Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Crucial MX100 512GB Noctua NH-U14S 3x Noctua NF-A14 FLX 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Dell U2713HM Dell U2312HM Ducky Shine 3 Year of the Snake (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W Fractal Design Define R5 Black Mionix Naos 7000 SteelSeries QcK 
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Sennheiser HD 650 (bal) Fostex TH-X00 Ebony Schiit Modi Multibit Schiit Jotunheim 
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Intel Xeon E5-2620 v4 @ 3GHz Matrox G200eH2 4x8GB Kingston Dual Rank ECC DDR4 @ 2133MHz 2x Samsung PM863 120GB in RAID1 
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Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Crucial MX100 512GB Noctua NH-U14S 3x Noctua NF-A14 FLX 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Dell U2713HM Dell U2312HM Ducky Shine 3 Year of the Snake (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W Fractal Design Define R5 Black Mionix Naos 7000 SteelSeries QcK 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 650 (bal) Fostex TH-X00 Ebony Schiit Modi Multibit Schiit Jotunheim 
Other
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CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Xeon E5-2620 v4 @ 3GHz Matrox G200eH2 4x8GB Kingston Dual Rank ECC DDR4 @ 2133MHz 2x Samsung PM863 120GB in RAID1 
Hard DriveOS
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Originally Posted by ADHDadditiv View Post

Can anyone else confirm this?
I won't remove it from the consistently great section, but I will probably be putting star's or something in and put a list down below with known problems and hopefully links to fixes.

I wouldn't remove from the "great" section either. I love ASUS, and will use them forever. Just see the sig rig. But an asterisk by it may be a good idea.

Heres a few sources:
Sound Card Issues

Motherboard Utilities
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB Samsung 850 EVO 500GB Kingston HyperX 3K 128GB Kingston SSDnow 128GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Caviar BLACK 500GB ASUS Blu-ray ASUS LightScribe SILVER ARROW SB-E 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 PRO 64-bit 3x ASUS VN248H (24" 1080p AH-IPS) Logitech G710+ Seasonic G-750 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM STORM:Trooper (DEFCON-3 MOD) Logitech MX Master Corsair MM600 CREATIVE Sound Blaster Z 
AudioOther
Audio Technica ATH-m50xbl Chill Factor III 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon X4 880k ASRock A88M-G/3.1 ASUS GTX 660ti HyperX Fury 8GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial MX300 750GB LG Blu-ray Windows 10 P502ui-b1 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Logitech k400r Rosewill Hive 550W ROSEWILL SRM-01 Vizio S4251W-b4 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X2 550 MSI 770-C45 Sparkle GT 220 4GB Corsair XMS3 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Western Digital 500GB Caviar Black Seagate Baracuda 1TB ASUS blu-ray Stock 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB Samsung 850 EVO 500GB Kingston HyperX 3K 128GB Kingston SSDnow 128GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Caviar BLACK 500GB ASUS Blu-ray ASUS LightScribe SILVER ARROW SB-E 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 PRO 64-bit 3x ASUS VN248H (24" 1080p AH-IPS) Logitech G710+ Seasonic G-750 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM STORM:Trooper (DEFCON-3 MOD) Logitech MX Master Corsair MM600 CREATIVE Sound Blaster Z 
AudioOther
Audio Technica ATH-m50xbl Chill Factor III 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon X4 880k ASRock A88M-G/3.1 ASUS GTX 660ti HyperX Fury 8GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial MX300 750GB LG Blu-ray Windows 10 P502ui-b1 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Logitech k400r Rosewill Hive 550W ROSEWILL SRM-01 Vizio S4251W-b4 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X2 550 MSI 770-C45 Sparkle GT 220 4GB Corsair XMS3 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Western Digital 500GB Caviar Black Seagate Baracuda 1TB ASUS blu-ray Stock 
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OCZ PSU's I have to disagree with the OP. The one that I had die on me (of many used) was RMA'd and a brand new one back at my doorstep in under 48 hours despite having to go all the way to Amsterdam, they even sent me updates at everystage of each day I waited. I would rate them for PSU's between consistently great and consistently average and challenge anyone to name a current or recent line of PSU's from them that were consistently bad.

Madcatz now they have a cr@p RMA. My RAT 5 took 2 weeks and at no point did they aknowledge receiving it or despatching the new one. Infact a week after the RMA was all over they emailed me asking if I had sent the thing to them yet.

Seagate also have a slow and shoddy RMA process with awful customer service.
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16GB (4X4) Gskill OCZ Agility 3 120GB Seagate Barracuda 500GB WD Black 500GB 
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I don't get this thread at all.

OCZ definitely aren't consistent, up until the Vertex 4 many of their drives suffered from a variety of issues.

Corsair have had major issues with their Force series SSDs, the firmware and software for their peripherals has been glitchy, their hydro coolers have had huge pump issues and their Corsair Link software has only just become usable, these are just some off the top of my head.

Seasonic I would have to agree with because the majority of their products are great.

Asus are hit and miss, their products are generally overpriced, especially their motherboards and graphics cards. They have issues with their sound cards and their AI Suite software still does not work properly. Again this is just some things I can think of, I'm sure there's more.

All companies make bad and good products, it's always better to judge individual products rather than a company as a whole. The only thing that matters to do with the company is their customer service.

I do agree, every company has problems, but I started this thread as a sort of quick reference guide for people to look at if they need quick help.

I do agree that the Corsair SSD's arent the best, the firmware and software for the peripherals is now great, I have never heard of the Hydro series coolers have any problems, and if they do, Corsair promptly replaces them. Corsair link is just a terrible concept to begin with.

As for Asus, yes they do cost more, but rarely ever do you hear anything bad about their products. I'm not making this list for Affordability, I'm making it essentially for everything else. Reliability, Customer Service, Product Quality, etc.

And OCZ, I only put them into the great section for specifically the Vertex 4, nothing else.
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I wouldn't remove from the "great" section either. I love ASUS, and will use them forever. Just see the sig rig. But an asterisk by it may be a good idea.

Heres a few sources:
Sound Card Issues

Motherboard Utilities
Thank you kindly for those links.

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Originally Posted by WR6133 View Post

OCZ PSU's I have to disagree with the OP. The one that I had die on me (of many used) was RMA'd and a brand new one back at my doorstep in under 48 hours despite having to go all the way to Amsterdam, they even sent me updates at everystage of each day I waited. I would rate them for PSU's between consistently great and consistently average and challenge anyone to name a current or recent line of PSU's from them that were consistently bad.

Madcatz now they have a cr@p RMA. My RAT 5 took 2 weeks and at no point did they aknowledge receiving it or despatching the new one. Infact a week after the RMA was all over they emailed me asking if I had sent the thing to them yet.

Seagate also have a slow and shoddy RMA process with awful customer service.

I personally have an OCZ PSU and my friend has one, on startup of certain games, it sounds like the electronics are being overloaded, like a buzzing noise comming from the PSU that isnt the fan. Their RMA process is alright, and to be fair, I never did have problems with the PSU, just the noise, but that noise sounds bad. I will move it to the average section.
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I cant really agree with this kind of thread in general. most of the products, each company utilizes another companies technology/stock to manufacture the item. for ssds, the type of controller may vary. PSU oems will always vary and stuff like that. One should never judge by brand but by the very specific unit. Sure some brands are slightly more consistent than others, but it does not mean it is always better, and that's the catch.
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Motherboard Utilities
Could you be more specific with this link, its kind of vauge. Its more just a google search, specific website please, I want this to be helpful, not something they can do themselves. wink.gif
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