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Um, not really...
Energy does not just 'escape' a black hole because it is mass-less, light for example is mass-less and can not 'escape' a black hole the way you seem to be describing it.
Hawking Radiation also does not only take the form of mass-less energy, but also that of massive particles.

Whether light has mass or not is still being debated however as a particle there are equations dealing with this problem. However one thing is certain, gravity can easily alter its course.
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As far as I was aware, photons are massless, and it just shows that gravity's influence isn't entirely mass based. Anyway, I consider mass an irrelevant concept, as it's equivalent to energy. In terms of strings, it's all about the vibration (not that I entirely buy into string theory...)

Re: White holes - where are they then? It's the same as the time travel paradox to me - if time travel is possible, where are the time travellers??

Edit - to expand on the "mass/energy" bit....we're talking rest mass, not relativistic mass. Big difference smile.gif
Edited by chemicalfan - 2/20/13 at 5:02am
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As far as I was aware, photons are massless, and it just shows that gravity's influence isn't entirely mass based. Anyway, I consider mass an irrelevant concept, as it's equivalent to energy. In terms of strings, it's all about the vibration (not that I entirely buy into string theory...)

Re: White holes - where are they then? It's the same as the time travel paradox to me - if time travel is possible, where are the time travellers??

Edit - to expand on the "mass/energy" bit....we're talking rest mass, not relativistic mass. Big difference smile.gif

Lets leave string theory out of this, starting to talk about the probabilty of something being in x location, heads will start spinning.

That also kinda leads into my point, it really depends on the theory you are looking at, the math works differently in each of them, and each theory has a base of assumptions which goes along with it, based on certain evidence.
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Black holes do spew out energy at each pole but it's still unknown, afaik what it exactly is.
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Black holes do spew out energy at each pole but it's still unknown, afaik what it exactly is.

Quasars on super massive black holes are created/powered by accretion discs surrounding the black hole, beyond its event horizon.




Heard something the other day about colliding galaxies... If 2 black holes are orbiting each other in close proximity, space and time becomes so distorted between the two that there's a path you could take ( figure 8 ) where you would emerge back where you started, before you started.

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Quasars on super massive black holes are created/powered by accretion discs surrounding the black hole, beyond its event horizon.




Heard something the other day about colliding galaxies... If 2 black holes are orbiting each other in close proximity, space and time becomes so distorted between the two that there's a path you could take ( figure 8 ) where you would emerge back where you started, before you started.


I hope theories like this will lead to great advancements in computing and space travel, as theories dating back a century are giving birth to quantum and other forms of computing, which were unimaginable even a few years ago.
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Lets leave string theory out of this, starting to talk about the probabilty of something being in x location, heads will start spinning.

That also kinda leads into my point, it really depends on the theory you are looking at, the math works differently in each of them, and each theory has a base of assumptions which goes along with it, based on certain evidence.

I was never that much of a mathematician, I'm a biologist at heart (don't hold it against me!). What it does mean, is that I look/think about things from a "what is physically happening?" level, rather than "what does the maths predict?". Imo, TOO many physical theories are purely mathematical with no physical basis (took me ages to think M-theory through in my head, lol). I'm happy with my grasp on the universe and its contents, and I'm happy with the way that I think about it. Some of the time (especially concerning gravity), my ideas on how things work aren't the same as any thoery I can find, presumably because no-one has done the maths for it (due to unknown variables, probably). Doesn't bother me though, there's more than enough physics out there to keep my head spinning for years biggrin.gif
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