New Posts All Forums:Forum Nav:

[The Verge] Sony PlayStation 4 controller prototype reportedly leaked in new photo - Page 4

post #31 of 80

2/14/13 at 10:00pm

Master__Shake

Joined: Aug 2011
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,102
Rep: 38 (Unique: 33)
Trader Rating: 1
Select All Posts By This User

Move the left con trol stick to the dpads location and its a winner.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Core i7 2600k	Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD5	2 Gigabyte Radeon HD7970's	8gb's Mushkin Enhanced Blackline Frostbyte
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
2 Corsair Force GT 120 Gb SSD's	Liteon IHAS124 24X DVD Writer	Coolit ECO C240	Windows 7 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
2 Samsung 24" 1 BenQ 24"	AZIO Levetron Mechanical	Coolermaster Silent Pro M 1000W	Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Gigabyte Force M7 5 Button Wired Blue Optical G...	Steelseries Qck Mass Super Thick Cloth Mouse Pad	Genius SW-G2.1 1250 4PC Gaming Speakers
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Core i7 2600k	ASUS P8P67 Deluxe	2 nVidia Geforce GTX 480's	8 gb's Mushkin Frostbyte
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Power
Corsair Force Series GT 120 Gb	Coolit ECO C240	Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit	Coolermaster Silent Pro 1000 watt
Case
HAF X
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Core i3 2120	Sapphire Pure Black P67 Hydra	ASUS Radeon HD4550	8 Gb's Patriot DDR3 1600
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	OS	Power
12 Segate 2tb drives (RAID 6)	Cosrair Force Series GT	Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.	OCZ ZT750 modular PSU
Case	Other	Other	Other
NORCO 4020	LSI 9260-4i Raid Card	Intel RES2SV240 Expander.	Voltaire 400Ex Hca Infiniband card
View all

hide details

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Core i7 2600k	Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD5	2 Gigabyte Radeon HD7970's	8gb's Mushkin Enhanced Blackline Frostbyte
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
2 Corsair Force GT 120 Gb SSD's	Liteon IHAS124 24X DVD Writer	Coolit ECO C240	Windows 7 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
2 Samsung 24" 1 BenQ 24"	AZIO Levetron Mechanical	Coolermaster Silent Pro M 1000W	Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Gigabyte Force M7 5 Button Wired Blue Optical G...	Steelseries Qck Mass Super Thick Cloth Mouse Pad	Genius SW-G2.1 1250 4PC Gaming Speakers
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Core i7 2600k	ASUS P8P67 Deluxe	2 nVidia Geforce GTX 480's	8 gb's Mushkin Frostbyte
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Power
Corsair Force Series GT 120 Gb	Coolit ECO C240	Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit	Coolermaster Silent Pro 1000 watt
Case
HAF X
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Core i3 2120	Sapphire Pure Black P67 Hydra	ASUS Radeon HD4550	8 Gb's Patriot DDR3 1600
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	OS	Power
12 Segate 2tb drives (RAID 6)	Cosrair Force Series GT	Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.	OCZ ZT750 modular PSU
Case	Other	Other	Other
NORCO 4020	LSI 9260-4i Raid Card	Intel RES2SV240 Expander.	Voltaire 400Ex Hca Infiniband card
View all

hide details

post #32 of 80

2/14/13 at 10:09pm

ILoveHighDPI
Commodore 64

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 582
Rep: 10 (Unique: 9)
Select All Posts By This User

Ugh. The D-pad is not the primary control method in games, they really need to swap it out with the left analog stick. At least they could move the sticks closer to the buttons instead of further away, if this trend keeps up the analog sticks on the PS5 will be right beside each other in the middle of the controller and you'll need to set it on a table to use the thing.

post #33 of 80

2/15/13 at 6:02am

anothergeek
PC Gamer

Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 164
Rep: 0 (Unique: 0)
Select All Posts By This User

Needs more ergonomic work

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
FX-4100	Gigabyte 990FXA UD3	Powercolor AX6850 Crossfire	Powercolor AX6850
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
Corsair Vengeance LP CAS7 1600	Samsung 840 Series	Seagate 7200.12	Lite-On DVD-RW
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	OS
Corsair H80	Arctic Twin Turbo ll Crossfire	Corsair 140mm x2 Intake, 120mm x3 Exhaust (H80-2)	Windows 7 Premium 64-bit
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
LG 32LH40 1080p Interpolated 32" LCD	Razer Blackwidow Tournament	Diablotek 675 Watt	Corsair 300R Windowed
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Razer Deathadder 2013	Razer Vespula	Klipsch Promedia 2.1
View all

hide details

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
FX-4100	Gigabyte 990FXA UD3	Powercolor AX6850 Crossfire	Powercolor AX6850
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
Corsair Vengeance LP CAS7 1600	Samsung 840 Series	Seagate 7200.12	Lite-On DVD-RW
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	OS
Corsair H80	Arctic Twin Turbo ll Crossfire	Corsair 140mm x2 Intake, 120mm x3 Exhaust (H80-2)	Windows 7 Premium 64-bit
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
LG 32LH40 1080p Interpolated 32" LCD	Razer Blackwidow Tournament	Diablotek 675 Watt	Corsair 300R Windowed
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Razer Deathadder 2013	Razer Vespula	Klipsch Promedia 2.1
View all

hide details

post #34 of 80

2/15/13 at 6:11am

Purger
PC Gamer

Joined: Oct 2012
Location: Florida
Posts: 779
Rep: 12 (Unique: 12)
Select All Posts By This User

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atomfix

TROLOLOL What is it? It looks like a 1990's controller

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

This is either a temporary prototype for Devs to use while Sony gets it right, or it's fake.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core	ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155	Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB	A-Data XPG Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" SSD	Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM	WD Blue 500GB 3.5"	Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Logitech G19	Rosewill Hive 750W ATX12V / EPS12V	Rosewill ARMOR-EVO ATX Full Tower	Sidewinder X5
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
i3 530	Asus	GeForce 220 GT	2 GB Essential 1600 MHz
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	OS
WD 500 GB Caviar Green	Toshiba DVD+RW	Windows 7 Home Premium OEM
View all

hide details

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core	ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155	Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB	A-Data XPG Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" SSD	Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM	WD Blue 500GB 3.5"	Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Logitech G19	Rosewill Hive 750W ATX12V / EPS12V	Rosewill ARMOR-EVO ATX Full Tower	Sidewinder X5
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
i3 530	Asus	GeForce 220 GT	2 GB Essential 1600 MHz
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	OS
WD 500 GB Caviar Green	Toshiba DVD+RW	Windows 7 Home Premium OEM
View all

hide details

post #35 of 80

2/15/13 at 6:33am

Magariz
3.5ghz

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,624
Rep: 46 (Unique: 39)
Trader Rating: 1
Select All Posts By This User

Quote:

Originally Posted by candy_van

That or they're trying to save virtual lives by preventing GUIs.

They better not! Drunken Forza (yes I know it's on Xbox, I prefer Froza to GT by a LONG shot) is sooooo much fun lol.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
e8400	EVGA 780i Sli FTW	EVGA GTX460	EVGA GTX 460
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
6gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800	WD 500TB 7200rpm	Seagate 2TB 7200rpm	Corsair 60GB SSD
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
WD 2TB Green	Samsung lightscribe 22x Sata dvd burner	Thermaltake V1	Win7 64bit
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
46" Samsung LED Smart TV	MaxKeyboard Nighthawk X8	ABS Tagan BZ700w modular	Thermaltake Spedo
Mouse	Audio	Audio
Razer Naga	Audio Technica AD-700's	Denon receiver with BA 5.1 speakers
View all

CPU	Motherboard	RAM	Hard Drive
i7 3820	ASrock x79 extreme	CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 64GB (8x8GB)	SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD250KW
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD250KW	SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD120KW	HGST Ultrastar 7K3000 HUA723020ALA640	HGST Ultrastar 7K3000 HUA723020ALA640
OS	Power	Case
Win 8	Corsair ax1200i	HAF XB
View all

hide details

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
e8400	EVGA 780i Sli FTW	EVGA GTX460	EVGA GTX 460
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
6gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800	WD 500TB 7200rpm	Seagate 2TB 7200rpm	Corsair 60GB SSD
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
WD 2TB Green	Samsung lightscribe 22x Sata dvd burner	Thermaltake V1	Win7 64bit
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
46" Samsung LED Smart TV	MaxKeyboard Nighthawk X8	ABS Tagan BZ700w modular	Thermaltake Spedo
Mouse	Audio	Audio
Razer Naga	Audio Technica AD-700's	Denon receiver with BA 5.1 speakers
View all

CPU	Motherboard	RAM	Hard Drive
i7 3820	ASrock x79 extreme	CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 64GB (8x8GB)	SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD250KW
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD250KW	SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD120KW	HGST Ultrastar 7K3000 HUA723020ALA640	HGST Ultrastar 7K3000 HUA723020ALA640
OS	Power	Case
Win 8	Corsair ax1200i	HAF XB
View all

hide details

post #36 of 80

2/15/13 at 11:14am

Cloudfire777

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,038
Rep: 42 (Unique: 38)
Select All Posts By This User

New picture taken of the same controller just different angle:

post #37 of 80

2/15/13 at 11:31am

Majin SSJ Eric
WaterCooler

Joined: Apr 2011
Location: Saint Simons Island, GA
Posts: 8,789
Rep: 299 (Unique: 241)
Trader Rating: 8
Folding Team Rank: 391
Folding Team Name: The Royal Navy
Name Team Rank Points / May Work Units / May

Majin_SSJ_Eric 391 6,925,070 / 0 1,509 / 0
Select All Posts By This User

Name	Team Rank	Points / May	Work Units / May
Majin_SSJ_Eric	391	6,925,070 / 0	1,509 / 0

Doesn't look too much bulkier than the DS4...

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i7 3960X C2 (5 GHz)	Asus Rampage IV Extreme	2 x EVGA GTX Titan SC in SLI	Patriot Viper Xtreme 2133MHz (4 x 4GB)
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
Corsair Force 3 240GB	Intel 320 160GB	Hitachi Deskstar 1TB	Samsung Blu-ray player
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
EK Supreme HF	EK RIVE Blocks	2 x EK FC Titan	2 x Hardware Labs Black Ice GTX Extreme rads (5...
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Alphacool VPP655 D5 pump with Bitspower pump to...	Windows 8 Pro	2 x Achieva Shimian QH270-IPSB	Microsoft Sidewinder X6
Power	Case	Mouse
Corsair AX1200	Silverstone TJ11	Corsair M60
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Core i7 2600k @ 4.5GHz	Asus Sabertooth P67 B3	MSI GTX 580 Lightning (stock)	2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws Series 1600MHz
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Keyboard
WD Velociraptor 150GB	Corsair H80	Windows 7 Home Premium 64	Generic USB keyboard
Power	Case	Mouse
Corsair HX750	Corsair 600T SE	Microsoft Sidewinder X8
View all

hide details

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i7 3960X C2 (5 GHz)	Asus Rampage IV Extreme	2 x EVGA GTX Titan SC in SLI	Patriot Viper Xtreme 2133MHz (4 x 4GB)
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
Corsair Force 3 240GB	Intel 320 160GB	Hitachi Deskstar 1TB	Samsung Blu-ray player
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
EK Supreme HF	EK RIVE Blocks	2 x EK FC Titan	2 x Hardware Labs Black Ice GTX Extreme rads (5...
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Alphacool VPP655 D5 pump with Bitspower pump to...	Windows 8 Pro	2 x Achieva Shimian QH270-IPSB	Microsoft Sidewinder X6
Power	Case	Mouse
Corsair AX1200	Silverstone TJ11	Corsair M60
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Core i7 2600k @ 4.5GHz	Asus Sabertooth P67 B3	MSI GTX 580 Lightning (stock)	2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws Series 1600MHz
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Keyboard
WD Velociraptor 150GB	Corsair H80	Windows 7 Home Premium 64	Generic USB keyboard
Power	Case	Mouse
Corsair HX750	Corsair 600T SE	Microsoft Sidewinder X8
View all

hide details

post #38 of 80

2/15/13 at 11:54am

calavera
4.0ghz

Joined: Sep 2009
Location: CA, USA
Posts: 3,252
Rep: 143 (Unique: 126)
Trader Rating: 25
Select All Posts By This User

Surely they can do better than that. I sincerely hope it's just a mule for the devs.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
920 D0 (#3845B260) 4.2Ghz / HT on 1.3v	Asus P6T Deluxe v2	Sapphire 7950 3GB	XFX GTX 260
RAM	Hard Drive	Cooling	OS
6GB G.Skill DDR3-1600	X-25M G2 80GB + OCZ Agility 2 240GB + F3 1TB x2	Swiftech H20-220 Edge	Win7 x64
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Dell U2410 + 2407WFP	Realforce 86UB, Filco Majestouch2, Noppoo choco...	Corsair HX850	Silverstone TJ-09B
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Logitech G9x & CM Spawn	custom Aluminium	ASUS Xonar Essence STX
View all

hide details

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
920 D0 (#3845B260) 4.2Ghz / HT on 1.3v	Asus P6T Deluxe v2	Sapphire 7950 3GB	XFX GTX 260
RAM	Hard Drive	Cooling	OS
6GB G.Skill DDR3-1600	X-25M G2 80GB + OCZ Agility 2 240GB + F3 1TB x2	Swiftech H20-220 Edge	Win7 x64
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Dell U2410 + 2407WFP	Realforce 86UB, Filco Majestouch2, Noppoo choco...	Corsair HX850	Silverstone TJ-09B
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Logitech G9x & CM Spawn	custom Aluminium	ASUS Xonar Essence STX
View all

hide details

post #39 of 80

2/15/13 at 12:12pm

pez
Apple flavored Jelly Beans

Joined: May 2008
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,030
Rep: 291 (Unique: 239)
Trader Rating: 41
Select All Posts By This User

Wouldn't mind a bulkier controller for my big hands

. I'm excited for Monday.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE Thuban [3.62GHz]	Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P	PowerColor PCS+ HD 7870 MYST 2GB [975/1500]	G.Skill 4x2GB DDR2 1066
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
Kingston HyperX 3K [120GB]	WD Caviar Black [1TB]	Samsung F4 [2TB]	Samsung SH-S223Q w/ LightScribe
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Corsair H100	Windows 7 Professional [x64]	Sony 3D PS3 Display	Razer BlackWidow Ultimate
Power	Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad
Seasonic S12D 850 Silver [850W]	Corsair 550D	Razer DeathAdder BE	SteelSeries Qck
Audio
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD
View all

CPU	Graphics	RAM	Hard Drive
Intel Core i5 2467M	Intel HD 3000	Samsung DDR3	Samsung SSD
OS	Monitor
Mac OS X Lion 10.7.4	11.6
View all

hide details

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE Thuban [3.62GHz]	Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P	PowerColor PCS+ HD 7870 MYST 2GB [975/1500]	G.Skill 4x2GB DDR2 1066
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
Kingston HyperX 3K [120GB]	WD Caviar Black [1TB]	Samsung F4 [2TB]	Samsung SH-S223Q w/ LightScribe
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Corsair H100	Windows 7 Professional [x64]	Sony 3D PS3 Display	Razer BlackWidow Ultimate
Power	Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad
Seasonic S12D 850 Silver [850W]	Corsair 550D	Razer DeathAdder BE	SteelSeries Qck
Audio
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD
View all

CPU	Graphics	RAM	Hard Drive
Intel Core i5 2467M	Intel HD 3000	Samsung DDR3	Samsung SSD
OS	Monitor
Mac OS X Lion 10.7.4	11.6
View all

hide details

post #40 of 80

2/15/13 at 12:15pm

andrews2547
4.0 GHz

Joined: Sep 2010
Location: Cambridge UK
Posts: 8,000
Rep: 166 (Unique: 138)
Reviews: 1
Select All Posts By This User

If that touchpad really is a touchpad, it's in the wrong place. That looks really awkward to use. It needs to be underneath the controller.

EDIT:

^
How it works.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master__Shake

Move the left con trol stick to the dpads location and its a winner.

Then it's an XBOX controller

Edited by andrews2547 - 2/15/13 at 1:26pm

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
AMD Phenom II X4 955	Crosshair V Formula	NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti	coming soon XFX 7950
RAM	RAM	RAM	Hard Drive
Corsair	Corsair	Corsair	WD Blue
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Coolermaster 212+ Evo	Windows 7 Ultimate	LG 32LD450	Cheap Acer
Power	Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad
Corsair TX650	Fractal Design Core 3000	Microsoft	None
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i5 3570K	Asus Maximus V Formula	Asus GTX 670 DirectCU II	Corsair Vengeance Jet Black LP 16 GB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Western Digital Black 2 TB	Western Digital Blue 500 GB	Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO	Windows 8 Professional 64-bit
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
LG 32LD450	Cheap Acer	Corsair TX650	Fractal Design Core 3000
Mouse
Microsoft Wired
View all

hide details

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
AMD Phenom II X4 955	Crosshair V Formula	NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti	coming soon XFX 7950
RAM	RAM	RAM	Hard Drive
Corsair	Corsair	Corsair	WD Blue
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Coolermaster 212+ Evo	Windows 7 Ultimate	LG 32LD450	Cheap Acer
Power	Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad
Corsair TX650	Fractal Design Core 3000	Microsoft	None
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i5 3570K	Asus Maximus V Formula	Asus GTX 670 DirectCU II	Corsair Vengeance Jet Black LP 16 GB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Western Digital Black 2 TB	Western Digital Blue 500 GB	Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO	Windows 8 Professional 64-bit
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
LG 32LD450	Cheap Acer	Corsair TX650	Fractal Design Core 3000
Mouse
Microsoft Wired
View all

hide details

Start a New Thread

Subscribe Search This Thread

New Posts All Forums:Forum Nav:

Return Home

Back to Forum: Rumors and Unconfirmed Articles

Forums
Industry News
Rumors and Unconfirmed Articles
[The Verge] Sony PlayStation 4 controller prototype reportedly leaked in new photo

Wow, I'm quite surprised that I am the first one to review this monitor. I probably won't be able to get all technical with this review, but I would like to write out what makes this a great...

I remember the first time I set my eyes on the Silverstone TJ07. It was like looking A PC Tower that screamed quality and versatility! The case is very light, unlike other full tower cases. Thumbs...

I had this case for a good while and it was such a joy. Everyone that saw my computer called it "The Tank" because they loved the beefy looks of it. I found the case to be very easy to work with...

I run 2 of these in my Quad-SLI rig. 0 coil whine... Software has worked well for me, not without "some" problems but, not a bad experience, either. When I called in about my issues (I purchased...

Okay. So I am kind of a nerd for finding computer cases and what I think looks good and matches peripherals and such. Many people don't pay attention to these things but I happen to and I'm glad I...

Recent Images In This Thread

Recent Reviews

[The Verge] Sony PlayStation 4 controller prototype reportedly leaked in new photo - Page 4

Recent Discussions

Recent Reviews

New Articles

Recent Images In This Thread

Featured Sponsors

Recent Reviews

[The Verge] Sony PlayStation 4 controller prototype reportedly leaked in new photo - Page 4

Recent Discussions

Recent Reviews

New Articles