Originally Posted by KaRLiToS
Thanks guys for the compliment.
Well, speaking to my own issues with your post, it's just that it came off a bit fanboyishly. I didn't write anything because I expect fanboyishness. Even from myself when defending my reasoning for purchasing the GTX Titan's. I have no problem with AMD cards. For single card setups I always recommend the 7970 over the GTX 680. Though I went with Quad-SLI GTX 680's prior to the Titan's because I can't stand the microstutter of AMD cards in Crossfire. Before my GTX 680's, I had a 6970. Before that, a GTX 590. And before that, and AMD 4870. So...I go with whatever is good at the time, for myself.
Now...the only issue I took with your comment about the GTX Titan vs 7970 is that it doesn't take into account the reason for the pricing. And that it's not that Nvidia had to make a card that cost so much in order to be able to compete. This would be the same as me coming and posting "Haha...look at what the 680 can do with a 294mm die, 2gb vram, and 256bit bus. Your stupid AMD card needed a 20% bigger die, 50% wider bus, and 50% more vram to be able to be better. And way to suck with microstutter!!" My statement would be entirely factual. But it also chooses to focus on the aspects that are helpful to further my own view/position. In my example, I refuse to ignore that while the 7970 does need all those additional features to beat the 680, it is still a faster card in most applications and that a single 7970 is more than enough for a 1080p display so Microstutter is rarely an issue
With your comparison to the GTX Titan again, it comes down to the same reason Nvidia initially launched the GTX 680. When it came out, the card was superior to the 7970 in a lot of benchmarks. It wasn't until some major driver improvements from AMD before we saw the 7970 become such a great card. Nvidia wasn't "technologically held back" by any means. The original 680 was originally intended to be the 670. But because it performed (at the time) so well against the 7970, Nvidia decided to capitalize on that and make a lot of money by selling it as the flagship card. The same situation with the GTX Titan now. It is important to note that this is more than just a gaming card. But it's also about maximizing profits for them. They're using a a die size only 6% larger than they had on their GTX 580 card. But because of the performance it gives, and because AMD is not going to launch a new card this year, they found yet another way to capitalize $$.
Now...the other part of my problem. Look at this statement: "Intel is so bad. It only took a $1100 CPU (3970x) to beat Intel's $330 CPU (3770k)." Sounds silly...I know...but I'm going somewhere with this. Now...let's pretend gaming was more advanced and actually used all the cores in a processor efficiently. That chip would only be 32%~ faster than the 3770k. Yet...the price is $750 more. And it's the exact same company. So what we see is that it's a business decision. And because people are always willing to pay a higher premium for "The Best" of anything. Astronomically more than the Performance Per $ is worth. Because that's not the most important factor for everybody. So the GTX Titan is providing a good improvement in performance over the 7970 without the microstutter you normally see in AMD multi-card setups. Especially for people who want to stay away from SLI/Crossfire. And it's charging that premium price for it. Just as intel does with its range of cpu's.
Just keep all that in mind. And keep up the great work with the thread.Edited by HyperMatrix - 3/1/13 at 11:45am