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Personnally I wouldn't allow it.
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hmm.... you know, i saw someone earlier stating that Adaptive V-sync increased his score by some points. Will that also be regarded as cheating or tweaking?

How many people sincerely run their Nvidia control panel settings at all default settings? I know i have my personal setting i normally use, and i never thought of it as tweaking. Although i never touch the performance slider because i don't need to, most people have done that in the past without realizing it is not allowed, due to the fact that they also use it for everyday gaming.
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hmm.... you know, i saw someone earlier stating that Adaptive V-sync increased his score by some points. Will that also be regarded as cheating or tweaking?

How many people sincerely run their Nvidia control panel settings at all default settings? I know i have my personal setting i normally use, and i never thought of it as tweaking. Although i never touch the performance slider because i don't need to, most people have done that in the past without realizing it is not allowed, due to the fact that they also use it for everyday gaming.

I do, I never mess in my settings. I don't see how Adaptive V-Sync can help the score though.
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Slippery slope indeed? There's a difference between hackery like grossly dialing down LOD (clearly unacceptable) and setting the power management mode (clearly acceptable). Fiddling with texture filtering settings in the nvcp are caught somewhere between those two, acceptable or not... we need a ruling. I'm happy to comply with whatever it may be.

The guideline allowing adjustments that can be made with the standard 1st party tools sgtm personally.
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Slippery slope indeed? There's a difference between hackery like grossly dialing down LOD (clearly unacceptable) and setting the power management mode (clearly acceptable). Fiddling with texture filtering settings in the nvcp are caught somewhere between those two, acceptable or not... we need a ruling. I'm happy to comply with whatever it may be.

The guideline allowing adjustments that can be made with the standard 1st party tools sgtm personally.

...the one 'good thing' about enforcing againt LOD is that it would be detectable (if not obvious) in the screenshot, per Alatar's links yesterday on the subject
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So have we decided that all these are acceptable?
Simple: (some help, some don’t make much difference)
Using programs like Game Booster
Switching to Classic windows theme
Raising the priority of the Valley process
Terminating other processes, like explorer.exe
Hitting the enter key to scroll through the scenes before hitting F9
Multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration changed to single display performance mode
Power management mode changed to prefer maximum performance
Vertical sync changed to off
Only have one monitor plugged into your card(s)

Extra tweaks: (definitely makes a difference)
Texture filtering – Quality changed to High performance
Changing “use my preference emphasizing:” to Performance

It is statically significant to use these settings, that is not in question. It is not, however, a large difference. With changes I can do 62.7 at 1440p but with no changes to anything I get 59.2. Both these scores are with the exact same overclock on core and memory.

It is just my opinion but the easiest thing to do is put all these standard tweaks (plus any others I might have missed) in the op and then everyone can use them.


I just went back and read this and it seems like a good idea.thumb.gif

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I'm not referring to RadeonPro though since that's third party and not directly affiliated with AMD in any way.

all the big tweaks dont change your score as valley overrides them when its launched do i normal run then tweak and run again and see what the difference is.

Whats the limit on driver tweaks if we allow them as i managed a 20k+ score
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I think Pandora's box may already have been opened at this point. Just in the last couple pages guys are all the sudden beating numbers that have stood for months...
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I would like no driver tweaking. Most people have put up scores that are without driver tweaking because they don't even know about it. I didn't even know about the performance slider thing in Nvidia control panel until mentioned it some pages ago.

Now because there is a high score, you're going to get a guy saying "but how" like on my screen shot a few pages ago. Stupid.

The only thing there is quite a few people do go into driver settings to use the sli profiles & such things for multi gpu. Then it becomes disallow all driver tweaks or just some?
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all the big tweaks dont change your score as valley overrides them when its launched do i normal run then tweak and run again and see what the difference is.

Whats the limit on driver tweaks if we allow them as i managed a 20k+ score

Since all my scores here are probably with driver tweaks (not sure but I usually do go quality to performance) I'm hoping the 'normal' tweaks are allowed.
For a limit, I would say nothing that alters the way the bench looks or runs. No wireframe hacks, LOD, tessellation changes, time cheats & driver modifications.
    
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