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mcg75 --- 2500k@4.2 Ghz --- EVGA Titan SC ; 1189 / 7008 ---- 80.4 ---- 3363



No driver tricks. Aero was off.

Memory is more important with Valley it seems. Dropped down to 1189 mhz but managed to up memory to 7008.

...memory is indeed important in Unigine - both on the card(s) as well as main system memory...the toughest 'real world' memory test I know is HWBot's custom 'Heaven' application....if my mem settings pass that, they'll pass anything.

...here is my fastest tri-SLI run so far (not an official submission as I do quads these days)...btw, I have NEVER submitted a Valley score with the performance slider touched in any way at all...it among other things does not get along with my custom main mem settings which are extreme (memtweakit score below)...this run had 'single monitor' mode as it is, well, as single monitor smile.gif and basic Win7 theme instead of areo (which is my normal setting anyways)...

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I think I will allow Windows and Aero tweaks but not driver tweaks.

I still can't understand why people would want 82 fps with tweaks that will remove IQ, when they can get 80,6fps without tweaks. What is the point ?

If nobody tweaks the drivers, we are all on the same scale, level.



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I think I will allow Windows and Aero tweaks but not driver tweaks.

I still can't understand why people would want 82 fps with tweaks that will remove IQ, when they can get 80,6fps without tweaks. What is the point ?

If nobody tweaks the drivers, we are all on the same scale, level.



@Joa3d43, I really believe you, I really trust people here on OCN. This community is amazing.


Probably because a majority of the people here know the difference between a Benchmark and a Game. For me in a benchmark I just want the highest score possible which is the purpose of Unigine Valley. In a game I'd opt for Image Quality because I actually tend to spend more time looking at the screen and paying attention then when I run a benchmark.


The sooner all of the cry babies realize it is not cheating in any way the sooner this thread can actually move forward.
Edited by Feud - 5/27/13 at 5:57pm
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I dont know why we should have hwbot rules on this thread. Ok nvidia have the drivers settings amd have the tess tweak ( which is not working with valley).I think that the point of this thread is to compare AMD vs nvidia cards with the same IQ as possible. I dont care if i will win with 0,5 fps because i set it on performance. Aero off etc etc is fine. But driver tweaks for lower IQ even if you cant see the difference its not fine. I will continue to post scores without drivers tweaks because i believe its not worth it

You guys said it yourselves, it's a competition. But what you are missing is that there is no way you can compare them equally. They are different companies with different architectures, and different driver configs. The same way you argue that it's not fair to AMD Gpu's, is the same way someone else can argue that it's not fair to Nvidia also.

Nvidia spent more time making these settings available for their users through their control panel, which enables users get the best out of their GPU's. However, AMD has their own settings too (but it does not work). Does that mean that anything that does not work for AMD should be deducted from Nvidia users?.... tongue.gif

IMO, i take it as an advantage. period.
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Probably because a majority of the people here know the difference between a Benchmark and a Game. For me in a benchmark I just want the highest score possible which is the purpose of Unigine Valley. In a game I'd opt for Image Quality because I actually tend to spend more time looking at the screen and paying attention then when I run a benchmark.

thumb.gif Same here
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Probably because a majority of the people here know the difference between a Benchmark and a Game. For me in a benchmark I just want the highest score possible which is the purpose of Unigine Valley. In a game I'd opt for Image Quality because I actually tend to spend more time looking at the screen and paying attention then when I run a benchmark.

Yeah but this thread is to compare. If we dont have the same IQ there is no point to have this thread.
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Yeah but this thread is to compare. If we dont have the same IQ there is no point to have this thread.


Drivers effect image quality bud.. Not sure if you ever knew that or not but AMD's Image Quality is not going to be the same as Nvidia's even running with default settings. This is a PERFORMANCE benchmark intended to stress hardware.. there is no comparison of Image Quality because Nvidia and AMD do not have the same Image Quality regardless of driver settings.
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I think I will allow Windows and Aero tweaks but not driver tweaks.

I still can't understand why people would want 82 fps with tweaks that will remove IQ, when they can get 80,6fps without tweaks....

@Joa3d43, I really believe you, I really trust people here on OCN. This community is amazing.

...thanks - I would have given you a sworn affidavit tongue.gif
.. that's also why I posted some of my HWBot results yesterday...all your scores there get scrutinized by competitors and staff smile.gif especially if you start holding global records...competition is fierce ...as stated before, I picked up several hundred points by stopping 3 or more cards from choking each other via an extra long MSI sli bridge, the rest is all memory and sheer 6c / 12T 3970X speed (almost ready to do a 5.250 GHz run - had to solve related PSU issues)...and now, after playing with R-IV-E's new 4004 BIOS, I finally get may fav mem modes working smile.gif and that means another big boost smile.gif
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I think I will allow Windows and Aero tweaks but not driver tweaks.

I still can't understand why people would want 82 fps with tweaks that will remove IQ, when they can get 80,6fps without tweaks. What is the point ?

If nobody tweaks the drivers, we are all on the same scale, level.
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If you can’t make any changes to the Nvidia or AMD driver settings at all, in any way, then delete the data and start again. I can tell you without question that your data set is flawed as is. If you just say no Tess changes by AMD and no slider changes by Nvidia then you might be able to get by with going back to certain scores and having them redone.

Honestly I don’t care either way. Where the Nikkei closes tonight means a lot to me, whether I can move a slider for this thread is not a big deal, but it would be nice to make a final decision in the near future.

That said, I would say again you are doing a good job with the thread, and this is not an easy or straightforward decision.
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You guys said it yourselves, it's a competition. But what you are missing is that there is no way you can compare them equally. They are different companies with different architectures, and different driver configs. The same way you argue that it's not fair to AMD Gpu's, is the same way someone else can argue that it's not fair to Nvidia also.

Nvidia spent more time making these settings available for their users through their control panel, which enables users get the best out of their GPU's. However, AMD has their own settings too (but it does not work). Does that mean that anything that does not work for AMD should be deducted from Nvidia users?.... tongue.gif

IMO, i take it as an advantage. period.
thumb.gif Same here

I think it has nothing to do with AMD vs Nvidia.

It's really a hard decision. weirdsmiley.gif



What do you think if I add a column in the charts with a Yes or No (Y or N) if tweaks were used?

I will add the question in the form.

We need to find a consensus.
Edited by KaRLiToS - 5/27/13 at 6:05pm
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I just don't see how changing 1-2 settings in Nvidia Control Panel is any worse than using a modified bios that completely disables GPU Boost. Both are software level mods and disabling GPU Boost gives a far bigger increase in performance than changing the texture filtering setting. If this is intended to be a comparison of solely the cards then shouldn't there be a means of standardization for bios' too?
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