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Besides... AMD has Texture Filtering/Quality options tongue.gif AMD just decided to rename them lol
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/image-quality-driver-optimization-graphics,3173-6.html

Interesting comments at the end of that article... ATI peeps cheat all the time wink.gif
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"Considering the data we’ve seen up until this point, we have to come to the disturbing conclusion that AMD's Radeon HD 7000-series cards currently enjoy more aggressive benchmark results at their default driver settings, resulting in reduced texture quality compared to the Radeon HD 6000s and GeForce GTX 500s. Using the highest Catalyst A.I. setting appears to be the remedy, though it costs additional speed.

This is the kind of result that makes us uncomfortable. Is it possible that AMD knowingly sacrificed texture quality to gain marginally-better performance in some benchmarks? The company took a couple weeks to respond to our queries, and we wondered as we waited."
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Interesting comments at the end of that article... ATI peeps cheat all the time wink.gif
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"Considering the data we’ve seen up until this point, we have to come to the disturbing conclusion that AMD's Radeon HD 7000-series cards currently enjoy more aggressive benchmark results at their default driver settings, resulting in reduced texture quality compared to the Radeon HD 6000s and GeForce GTX 500s. Using the highest Catalyst A.I. setting appears to be the remedy, though it costs additional speed.

This is the kind of result that makes us uncomfortable. Is it possible that AMD knowingly sacrificed texture quality to gain marginally-better performance in some benchmarks? The company took a couple weeks to respond to our queries, and we wondered as we waited."

Oh wow... that's very interesting.
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But guys, I want to know, have you bought high end cards to lower the IQ?
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Oh wow... that's very interesting.

I cherry picked those comments out, actually the remainder of the article is about that topic is pretty interesting in light of the discussion here. Ultimately, amd remedied their default settings situation in a later driver release.
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But guys, I want to know, have you bought high end cards to lower the IQ?

I bought a hi-end card to get a good combination of framerate + imagequality. Do i sometimes i sacrifice quality for framerates... u bet.
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But guys, I want to know, have you bought high end cards to lower the IQ?

That's not the point. You can't ban tweaks that have already been used the entire time the thread has been in existence. I'd bet half of the results in the chart have used some sort of OS optimization or driver tweak. Besides, changing the slider to performance did not have any noticeable effect on IQ that I could see. It's no where near the issue that tessellation has in the Heaven bench; that's really noticeable. Anyway, the poll you posted speaks for itself and since there is no way to enforce any such rule you might as well just put all the tweaks in the OP so that everybody has a chance to use them for fairness...
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That's not the point. You can't ban tweaks that have already been used the entire time the thread has been in existence. I'd bet half of the results in the chart have used some sort of OS optimization or driver tweak. Besides, changing the slider to performance did not have any noticeable effect on IQ that I could see. It's no where near the issue that tessellation has in the Heaven bench; that's really noticeable. Anyway, the poll you posted speaks for itself and since there is no way to enforce any such rule you might as well just put all the tweaks in the OP so that everybody has a chance to use them for fairness...
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I know I have no choice anyway.

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But guys, I want to know, have you bought high end cards to lower the IQ?
I agree with your point, but you are running a benching thread. From a non-benching point of view you should do nothing to the overclocks, gpu, os, bios, drivers, chip, ram, or anything else that is not used 24/7 and in games like FC3.

Did you buy windows to run it on Classic? Did you buy two monitors to only use one (since that helps scores)? I am not a bencher, but I have come to accept that there are benching threads and stability threads. And yes benchers care about 1 fps, heck I just want .5 fps to beat L.C.

In a nutshell, you and everyone else are right to point out that any quality changes are points of contention, but the alternative appears to be worse in our current situation. Allow them now, then when the next Valley version comes out or some other bench, decide beforehand.
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i7-3770k 5.0 24/7 Maximus V Formula EVGA GTX 690 G.Skill Trident X 2400 (2x8gb) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 Pro 512GB Pioneer BD-RW Swiftech H220 Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
2 x NEC 30" Logitech G15 Corsair AX1200 NZXT Switch 810 
MouseAudio
Logitech G9x Logitech G51 
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