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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

What in the heck is going on in here? I leave for a couple days to buy a new car and all hell breaks loose!

I know right? There are a ton of different factors that could land you a huge difference in score with the same clocks. Instead of accusing someone of cheating, why not ask them how they optimized their system to improve their score? Why would you assume that your systems are even close in comparison when you have no idea how old/new or streamlined/bloated the OS install is? Drivers, running services/software, different hardware types and configurations can all have a major impact as well. Hell I gained 1 fps pulling my gt 210 so that my 780 was running in x16 mode . . .

My point is, don't go accusing people of cheating without some proof to back it up. We're all (for the most part) adults here, there are much more constructive ways to deal with a discrepancy in scores that are near in clock speeds other than accusations of cheating. Like simply asking the submitter in question what their set up for benching is, what driver was used etc . . .

I'm almost matching Karlitos' 780 score of 91.2 with a lower core clock by 27MHz and just a little higher mem oc at 26 MHz faster than his 7300 Mhz effective mem speed. Doesn't that seem a little fishy as well? Do I deserve to be accused of cheating just because I took the time to optimize the rest of my system (hardware and software) for the benchmark?
Edited by NRD - 6/8/13 at 10:56pm
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I believe some ppl did not get the memo.

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Originally Posted by Yungbenny911 View Post

lachen.gif don't argue anymore you guys, I believe tsm106 might have found out what he did wink.gif

3770k @ 4.8 -- GTX 770 -- 1320Mhz Core -- 1928Mhz Mem - 59.5fps -- 2491 (Definitely not to be submitted)



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A few PMs between my new friend Tsm106 and I have resolved our issues. Nothing to see here, move along folks. Back to our regularly scheduled programming. The Nvidia and AMD driver changes in the op are fine.

We only have one score in question and the parties involved can discuss that via pm I would think.
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WOW! Been gone for a minute, getting some spazzy things done to the house & it has went crazy up in here!
 
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I believe some ppl did not get the memo.

Sorry, maybe it's because I just woke up, but I really don't see what is being pointed out here. Would you care to elaborate?
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A few PMs between my new friend Tsm106 and I have resolved our issues. Nothing to see here, move along folks. Back to our regularly scheduled programming. The Nvidia and AMD driver changes in the op are fine.

We only have one score in question and the parties involved can discuss that via pm I would think.

I'm glad that was resolved, however my statement about accusations still stands. They will kill the integrity and validity of this thread if they are tossed around frequently. There are a set of rules posted in the OP, if those rules are followed yet your score does not fit into the metrics properly it would seem that is tantamount to cheating (going by Karlitos not allowing the score). Were they not only comparing 2 different data sets? I'm no expert, but wouldn't you want a larger pool of information to draw a conclusion from? Still I am not speaking to the validity of the score he was referring to as I have not had a close look, nor do I have the hardware in question available to test, but was speaking to the speed in which his submission was labelled as having "something wrong" with it.

Shouldn't the stipulations of the submission in the OP be enough to prove that the bench was run at the proper quality? I've read here that the heaven bench requires a ss be taken at a certain spot in the bench (the road at the start I believe), do we need to implement something like that to eliminate these doubts that people have? I know it is not easy to police this stuff, so I'm asking what else could we provide in our submissions to prove their legitimacy?

Sorry if I'm way off mark here, but I do not like the feeling that I will be jumped on and called a cheater if I submit a score that is better than someone else's score that was achieved using higher/same clocks than mine.

Just trying to help, sorry for calling you guys out on calling guys out lol biggrin.gif
post #5586 of 13339
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

you should turn off your osd , it sometimes mess'es with my scores in vally

I use it to take my screenshots, and sometimes if a get a crash, i like to know what clocks i was running at and at what TDP, so it's helpful.. I tried running it without the OSD before and i saw no change in FPS...
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Sorry, maybe it's because I just woke up, but I really don't see what is being pointed out here. Would you care to elaborate?
I'm glad that was resolved, however my statement about accusations still stands. They will kill the integrity and validity of this thread if they are tossed around frequently. There are a set of rules posted in the OP, if those rules are followed yet your score does not fit into the metrics properly it would seem that is tantamount to cheating (going by Karlitos not allowing the score). Were they not only comparing 2 different data sets? I'm no expert, but wouldn't you want a larger pool of information to draw a conclusion from? Still I am not speaking to the validity of the score he was referring to as I have not had a close look, nor do I have the hardware in question available to test, but was speaking to the speed in which his submission was labelled as having "something wrong" with it.

Shouldn't the stipulations of the submission in the OP be enough to prove that the bench was run at the proper quality? I've read here that the heaven bench requires a ss be taken at a certain spot in the bench (the road at the start I believe), do we need to implement something like that to eliminate these doubts that people have? I know it is not easy to police this stuff, so I'm asking what else could we provide in our submissions to prove their legitimacy?

Sorry if I'm way off mark here, but I do not like the feeling that I will be jumped on and called a cheater if I submit a score that is better than someone else's score that was achieved using higher/same clocks than mine.

Just trying to help, sorry for calling you guys out on calling guys out lol biggrin.gif


Hey mister, I don't think you understand yet, no one is "tossing" accusations here and there, ONLY ONE PERSON'S SCORE IS IN QUESTION.

And why is that? Because we have available facts to prove that it does not go along with the Clock/FPS ratio. What do you expect us to do? See a score with 1Mhz and 50 FPS, then we act like we did not notice it?

We have said earlier that we found out what was going on, but we can't expose it, because it's best not to even shed light on it.... Just so you know, my FPS jumped from 56.4 fps to 59.5fps, and i was not even trying; 61-62 FPS will be easily reachable if i try harder with the "tweaking method".

I hope now you understand that we don't just go around saying "Hey you! 75fps? eek.gif... YOU'RE CHEATING!!!" lol.. we actually take a lot of things into consideration before we start pointing fingers here and there wink.gif
Edited by Yungbenny911 - 6/9/13 at 12:15am
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this is what happend to me today i ran it twice with the osd on to monitor if my 670 was throttling and i could not get a good score so i turned off the osd completley and that was the only thing i did and got my score up. this was the first time this has happend to me? .....so Idk


may be just a sli thing cause it does cause me problems somtimes headscratch.gif
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Form filled

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Hey mister, I don't think you understand yet, no one is "tossing" accusations here and there, ONLY ONE PERSON'S SCORE IS IN QUESTION.

And why is that? Because we have available facts to prove that it does not go along with the Clock/FPS ratio. What do you expect us to do? See a score with 1Mhz and 50 FPS, then we act like we did not notice it?

We have said earlier that we found out what was going on, but we can't expose it, because it's best not to even shed light on it.... Just so you know, my FPS jumped from 56.4 fps to 59.5fps, and i was not even trying; 61-62 FPS will be easily reachable if i try harder with the "tweaking method".

I hope now you understand that we don't just go around saying "Hey you! 75fps? eek.gif... YOU'RE CHEATING!!!" lol.. we actually take a lot of things into consideration before we start pointing fingers here and there wink.gif

Of course I understand that you would naturally compare your scores against others and a discrepancy that large is certainly worth looking into, and again I'm not trying to argue that his score was legit. I was speaking more as a new comer to the benchmarking scene here seeing someone called out for cheating with some sort of tweaking that has yet to be identified (but I'm sure easily found with some searching). I guess a 7 fps difference is enough to prove that someone is using a tweak that is not allowed? Again excuse my ignorance here, I'm only looking at the facts as they are presented.

Honestly I think it would be better if it was discussed out in the open, we're all big boys here with access to Google. If we want to I'm sure we can find numerous "tweaks" some "legal" and some not, how is anyone (especially someone new to the bench marking game like myself) to know what is and what isn't allowed? I'm grateful for the discussion that was had about the driver tweaks as it makes it clear for new comers like myself what we are allowed to do. Was he using a third party app to change driver settings or messing with the way valley calculates your score? Is there any way to detect these disallowed tools other than the large discrepancy in clock/fps ratio?

I can respect that you'd rather not bring it to light, however it's a little late for that now. Pretending like it doesn't exist isn't going to help anyone IMO. I've heard people talk about "game booster" programs that close background processes etc, are there some that do more than this and go so far as driver tweaks or something that would be considered cheating? If that's the case then I'm sure some here have used them without even knowing they were breaking the rules, just like what happened with the driver quality setting fiasco. I think it would be prudent to not only list what is allowed tweaking in the OP, but also what is not allowed as far as specific programs. I understand that the onus should be on the submitter to understand what the tweaks they are using actually do, but I also believe that such information should also be open and available for discussion and to let people know they should not be used in this thread.

Anyone else like the idea of a disallowed programs list or does everyone agree it's better keeping such things in the dark?

I apologize for saying that people were throwing accusations around, I was just disheartened to see a post get rejected when I didn't see any evidence of cheating other than a clock/fps ratio discrepancy. I suppose in my haste, I did not take into account how large a discrepancy it was, combined with my understanding that (through my own testing) just optimizing your OS/hardware can net you a few fps at the same clock speeds, so I assumed a 7fps difference was possible. I guess that's to much of a difference?

Again please excuse my ignorance, I'm just trying to get involved in the discussion.
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Form filled



Nice score James! Are those running in your 900D build? Pics? biggrin.gif

To make it easier for everyone to compare scores, can you add this info to your submission post please?
Code:
User Name --- CPU@ Ghz ---- GPU Name ; Core / Memory ---- AVG. FPS ---- Score

Edited by NRD - 6/9/13 at 1:39am
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