Originally Posted by NRD
Of course I understand that you would naturally compare your scores against others and a discrepancy that large is certainly worth looking into, and again I'm not trying to argue that his score was legit. I was speaking more as a new comer to the benchmarking scene here seeing someone called out for cheating with some sort of tweaking that has yet to be identified (but I'm sure easily found with some searching). I guess a 7 fps difference is enough to prove that someone is using a tweak that is not allowed? Again excuse my ignorance here, I'm only looking at the facts as they are presented.
Honestly I think it would be better if it was discussed out in the open, we're all big boys here with access to Google. If we want to I'm sure we can find numerous "tweaks" some "legal" and some not, how is anyone (especially someone new to the bench marking game like myself) to know what is and what isn't allowed? I'm grateful for the discussion that was had about the driver tweaks as it makes it clear for new comers like myself what we are allowed to do. Was he using a third party app to change driver settings or messing with the way valley calculates your score? Is there any way to detect these disallowed tools other than the large discrepancy in clock/fps ratio?
I can respect that you'd rather not bring it to light, however it's a little late for that now. Pretending like it doesn't exist isn't going to help anyone IMO. I've heard people talk about "game booster" programs that close background processes etc, are there some that do more than this and go so far as driver tweaks or something that would be considered cheating? If that's the case then I'm sure some here have used them without even knowing they were breaking the rules, just like what happened with the driver quality setting fiasco. I think it would be prudent to not only list what is allowed tweaking in the OP, but also what is not allowed as far as specific programs. I understand that the onus should be on the submitter to understand what the tweaks they are using actually do, but I also believe that such information should also be open and available for discussion and to let people know they should not be used in this thread.Anyone else like the idea of a disallowed programs list or does everyone agree it's better keeping such things in the dark?
I apologize for saying that people were throwing accusations around, I was just disheartened to see a post get rejected when I didn't see any evidence of cheating other than a clock/fps ratio discrepancy. I suppose in my haste, I did not take into account how large a discrepancy it was, combined with my understanding that (through my own testing) just optimizing your OS/hardware can net you a few fps at the same clock speeds, so I assumed a 7fps difference was possible. I guess that's to much of a difference?
Again please excuse my ignorance, I'm just trying to get involved in the discussion.
i see that you don't really reason much before you type essays online. Let me make it easy for you to understand with an example.
If Mazda was hosting a racing competition, and they state "ONLY MAZDA CARS ALLOWED"
, that would mean on the "Allowed" list, the only thing you see there is Mazda
right?... Does that mean they should have a "Disallowed" list with EVERY other car brand on it?.
... It's common sense Mister. Use what is stated that you can use, and forget about any other thing.
There are a million and one software's you can use to "better" your score, but it has already been stated that 3rd party applications are not allowed (applications that interfere with how valley runs, not your system). Applications like game-booster do not affect valley, it basically does what you can do by yourself if you go into your task manager and manually kill processes that you don't need.Edited by Yungbenny911 - 6/9/13 at 2:19am