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^^^ This and it should center on overclocking the card in the first place. Not everyone can or is able to overclock their cards the same and that should be pretty clear. Better oc's are going to get better numbers and should score around the same aside from throttling. Someone scoring a lot better at similar clocks are obviously doing something else to enhance their score. It's just sad it's become more about tweaking and less about oc'ing. Top 5 cards in any catagory deserves some recognition, just for being able to overclock them to that point. It seems like it's all about that top spot though, regardless how it's gotten.

I still think tweaking is not the focus here. Overclocking is. Tweaking will just put everyone on the same level.

When I oced my GTX 780, I just tweaked the nvidia panel as the tutorial mentionned and it took me 5 minutes. Also set Windows to classic and closed as many useless applications that I could (Using msconfig startup) .

But overclocking my card and my rig to reach the 79,2fps took me literaly two days to achieve. Tests after tests after tests. My girlfriend couldn't stand the Valley melody anymore, lol.
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I still think tweaking is not the focus here. Overclocking is. Tweaking will just put everyone on the same level.

When I oced my GTX 780, I just tweaked the nvidia panel as the tutorial mentionned and it took me 5 minutes. Also set Windows to classic and closed as many useless applications that I could (Using msconfig startup) .

But overclocking my card and my rig to reach the 79,2fps took me literaly two days to achieve. Tests after tests after tests. My girlfriend couldn't stand the Valley melody anymore, lol.
Absolutely, so EVERYBODY, lets get back on the topic of oc'ing, all ths tweak talk needs to disappear.thumb.gif

Luckily I have the entire basement or I would definately be single. It's not the music but dozen Delta's that would do me in! However, between the second matrix and the Caselabs box that may show up, I could be yet!
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But overclocking my card and my rig to reach the 79,2fps took me literaly two days to achieve. Tests after tests after tests. My girlfriend couldn't stand the Valley melody anymore, lol.

Hey now, we all know to turn off Valleys sound for that extra .1 frames. thumb.gif
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Your score seems extremely low what the hell? That's what my 7950 gets at stock, and your 660Ti is running a crapload of clocks. . .
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Karlitos I kinda agree with the mod you quoted.

I love this thread and have been following from the beginning and appreciate all the work you have done.
The only thing that kinda irks me is the tweaks.

In my opinion any true test of a graphics cards capabilities would include overclocking and setting all quality settings to max or leave everything at stock.
Otherwise whats the point?
To me the graphs become meaningless when people start messing with lowering the Quality settings or turning of the sound to me thats just cheating and not representative of the hardwares true potential.
I will still direct friends who are buying hardware to this thread to see the cards and how they perform.
There is still a lot of valid information in this thread but its quickly falling apart i think and needs tougher rules to follow.
Edited by SvenTheBerserK - 6/9/13 at 10:06am
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Karlitos I kinda agree with the mod you quoted.

I love this thread and have been following from the beginning and appreciate all the work you have done.
The only thing that kinda irks me is the tweaks.

In my opinion any true test of a graphics cards capabilities would include overclocking and setting all quality settings to max or leave everything at stock.
Otherwise whats the point?
To me the graphs become meaningless when people start messing with lowering the Quality settings or turning of the sound to me thats just cheating and not representative of the hardwares true potential.
I will still direct friends who are buying hardware to this thread to see the cards and how they perform.
There is still a lot of valid information in this thread but its quickly falling apart i think and needs tougher rules to follow.

FtW420 is part of Hwbot team and he tweaked since the begginning because it is permitted everywhere. The graphs are made using the average. I really don't think the graphs are becoming meaningless because people get a 1-3 fs boost with limited tweaks.

The average of:
  • Low scores
  • Mid scores
  • High scores
  • No tweaks
  • With tweaks
  • High OC
  • Low OC


With all the info we have, even if someone gain 2 fps with tweaks, it will never change the average so the info is still good.

And the mod I am referring about would also allow tweaks because he also did it in the thread.

I already showed an example of how the average is affected. If I add 10 unbelievable scores of HD 7970 with 70 fps. The average won't even budge because we have some many results.

HENCE, why I do the average. The best representation of what cards can do.


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Karlitos I kinda agree with the mod you quoted.

I love this thread and have been following from the beginning and appreciate all the work you have done.
The only thing that kinda irks me is the tweaks.

In my opinion any true test of a graphics cards capabilities would include overclocking and setting all quality settings to max or leave everything at stock.
Otherwise whats the point?
To me the graphs become meaningless when people start messing with lowering the Quality settings or turning of the sound to me thats just cheating and not representative of the hardwares true potential.
I will still direct friends who are buying hardware to this thread to see the cards and how they perform.
There is still a lot of valid information in this thread but its quickly falling apart i think and needs tougher rules to follow.
With due respect to yours and other’s opinions, we have already had this debate. There is no easy solution, and nothing will satisfy everyone. Turning the sound on or off doesn’t make any difference, and show me a screen shot where you can point out the quality difference between using the driver adjustments in the op vs. not using them.

The point was that in a benching thread it is assumed you can make standard available adjustments to the official released drivers. The changes listed in the op will get you a few fps, and there is no way to know if people use them or not.

Those that disagree with the majority here in allowing standard driver choice adjustments are free to start their own thread and have everyone pinky swear that they are running defaults in their control panel, then you can spend all the time you want arguing whether someone changed those settings or not.

I honestly understand your point of view, but the thread had this debate, so let’s move on please. Karlitos is doing a great job with the thread, and doing the best he can to satisfy everyone which is obviously not easy.
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A question if I may, does the 5.2 on your 3970 help the score much vs. say a 4.9 or 5.0? I have been going on the assumption that a higher chip oc is more important with multiple gpus. As in a really high chip oc definitely would make a difference with two Titans or 780s but not so much of a difference with a single card. Nice score by the way.
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