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For those arguing about stopping asteroids, this guy may have the answer - his asteroid seeking robot spacecraft

http://singularityhub.com/2013/02/19/interview-diamandis-planetary-resources-to-claim-high-value-asteroids-with-robotic-beacons/

Eh, we'd probably end up just towing it away and moving it off an orbit that would impact Earth.

"A gravity tractor (GT) is a spacecraft that deflects another object in space, typically a potentially hazardous asteroid that might impact Earth, without physically contacting it, using only its gravitational field to transmit the required impulse.[1][2] The tractor spacecraft could either hover near the object being deflected or orbit near it. The concept has the advantage that essentially nothing need be known about the mechanical composition and structure of the asteroid in advance."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_tractor

Blowing them up is really a dumb idea.
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they said the Russia Meteor was moving 30k mph?? wow.. that's much faster than the Asteroid that flew past us. that should easily confirm how unrelated they are.

But shouldn't Norad have been able to track this thing within at least a day?

but wow, 30k mph!
now think of that, thats fast

Apohpis, roughly 1000 feet in diameter, is traveling at a speed of 68k MPH!!!!

The Next big step for Human Kind will be in the asteroid fields, Humans should start "wrangling" Asteroid for purposes of mining, as well as building new arrays to help track objects with greater accuracy, and of course further from out planet so we have some real warning time.

That is the only thing that I honestly fear, You have earth moving around the sun at 67,000 miles per hour. The Solar system traveling around the Galaxy at 490,000 miles per hour.... And our Entire Galaxy Moving off with our Local Group Cluster at estimated 2,237,000 mph!!!

what are the chances of us just Running right through something, going so fast that we would barely even witness the event?



I have no idea what is necessary for this sort of a reaction, but it seems possible.

watch out for Asteroid 2011
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Asteroids are pretty hard to detect, because they are small and dim. As for the collision with something from other galaxy cluster chances are rather low - because space in general is mostly empty. You have some small high density areas (starts and planet) which are separated by huge areas where there is nothing.
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Problem with that is if you've ever golfed and ended up in the woods, while the trees are 90% air, they seem to stop a lot of golf balls.
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Avonosac, Nice Ippo Image for your Commodore Rig lol

Kind of like how they say when we slam into Andromeda, they believe that there will be no actual Collisions involved due to the distances between each star. Obviously gravitational forces from new bodies blowing through our galaxy plus the two Centers would obviously destroy life as we know it and toss thousands of Star systems out into space.

still, I wonder what it would look like for 2 equal sized stars to smash into eachother.
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Eh, we'd probably end up just towing it away and moving it off an orbit that would impact Earth.

"A gravity tractor (GT) is a spacecraft that deflects another object in space, typically a potentially hazardous asteroid that might impact Earth, without physically contacting it, using only its gravitational field to transmit the required impulse.[1][2] The tractor spacecraft could either hover near the object being deflected or orbit near it. The concept has the advantage that essentially nothing need be known about the mechanical composition and structure of the asteroid in advance."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_tractor

Blowing them up is really a dumb idea.

Eh, a few things worth mentioning.

a) We don't have the ability to create this spacecraft as of now and it doesn't look like we will in the near future (decades). Bombs on the other hand, we do have already. It might not be the best solution but at least it's not a fairy tale.

b) The fact that we didn't even see this one coming proves 2 points. We need to be able to detect asteroids WAY earlier than we do now. And, this Gravity Tractor is useless in the short term. NDT has commented on this too but basically, we'd need months maybe even years to pull the asteroid into a different trajectory. Not to mention getting to the asteroid alone would take months.

c) Cost. No-one. Up until now, is willing to pay such a huge amount of money to protect, what is essentially and potentially, other nation's territory.
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Avonosac, Nice Ippo Image for your Commodore Rig lol

Kind of like how they say when we slam into Andromeda, they believe that there will be no actual Collisions involved due to the distances between each star. Obviously gravitational forces from new bodies blowing through our galaxy plus the two Centers would obviously destroy life as we know it and toss thousands of Star systems out into space.

still, I wonder what it would look like for 2 equal sized stars to smash into eachother.

Lol, thanks.

A star collision would be something to see, provided you are far enough away to be safe.
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Not about stars, but there is a theory that Moon was created when an Mars sized body hit Earth some 4bln years ago.
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as long as aerosmith isn't in the Soundtrack il be happy.

btw that asteroid 2012 that passed us by, was estimated to be worth 192 billion dollars if it could be mined.

there must be a way to get these near earth asteroids into a Geo synced orbit around us so that we could mine them.

also as far as Asteroid Defense, the best thing we could do with our current tech would be to train a powerful laser onto the asteroid whih over time would slow it down and or change its trajectory, however I doubt we would have enough time to do so and I just dont think it would actually work
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as long as aerosmith isn't in the Soundtrack il be happy.

btw that asteroid 2012 that passed us by, was estimated to be worth 192 billion dollars if it could be mined.

there must be a way to get these near earth asteroids into a Geo synced orbit around us so that we could mine them.

also as far as Asteroid Defense, the best thing we could do with our current tech would be to train a powerful laser onto the asteroid whih over time would slow it down and or change its trajectory, however I doubt we would have enough time to do so and I just dont think it would actually work

Uh, I wouldn't be so sure that we have the technology to do that right now. We would need a massive network of highly accurate and hugely powerful radars to be able to measure the speed and trajectory of the object, and be able to measure and focus in real time on an object moving very fast. The focusing would be the hard part, and likely this would need to be based in space, somehow because of the crazy things our atmosphere does to lasers which are shot through it, starting with blooming, and getting more complicated from there on.
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