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Everyone would be surprised how much isn't told to us. It is actually a good thing however. The average person, (especially American), isn't mature enough to understand how fragile our existence really is. There would be mass panic every time something like this is announce. Imagine if they announced that they hope it doesn't strike Earth.

pretty much. People would probably ransack stores and just do everything on their "bucket list" whether its good or bad
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That video is fake. The real meteorite landed in a lake and only made a six foot radius hole. SOURCE

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http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/02/15/russian-meteor-explained-videos-and-pictures-of-blast-and-crash-site/
Edited by ]\/[EGADET]-[ - 2/15/13 at 2:24pm
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It blew up before landing, the photo was one of the major chunk landing sites, the other being that building.
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that had to be scary!
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How did Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck miss this? I thought our team of oil-rig workers gone spacemen were on top of this?tongue.gif
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I suppose its time to start prepping for the end of the world!
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Originally Posted by BinaryDemon View Post

Actually I feel almost the opposite (less worried, more optimistic) about possibility of extinction by Asteroid. It's one of the few extinction scenarios in which the odds are improving in our favor. Every year our ability to detect large Near Earth Objects improves, as more more cameras are pointed towards the sky and more computers are analyzing these images. The odds are increasing that we will be able to detect large objects earlier, and thus give us more response time.

This is true.

The risk has always been there, but public awareness of is fairly new.
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Wait, that was the same observation they made about apophis a couple of days/weeks ago, are you sure you aren't confusing the two?

I'm not confusing the two.

The very first reports of this were ~100 injured and some minor damage from an impactor, quite possibly one small enough to be quite common, just rarely striking a populated area.

Then figures were revised upwards to several hundred and the size was reveal at 10+ tons, which would make it a one in 5 year event.

Now some sources are calling it a one in a century blast (obviously comparing it to Tunguska), and injury reports are in the ballpark of ~1,000.
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They are saying this didn't actually strike the ground. It exploded mid-air. Like Tunguska. (but much smaller)

The blast most people saw and felt was indeed an atmospheric explosion.

Some chunks of it still reached the ground.
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Yeah, I am not worried at all about extinction by asteroid...if we found one big enough to worry about I am sure we would devise a way change its course. To be honest, part of me would like for it to happen because the only time humans ever seems to truly work together is in the face of great adversity and I have no doubt we would all be fine in the end...and the world might end up being a more friendly place for a decade or two.

I think this is overly optimistic, all around.

We would need years, if not decades, of advance warning to be able to do anything about an asteroid large enough to prompt an extinction event. The odds of us finding one in time with the stuff we have pointed at the sky now is quite slim. I'm also doubtful of humanity's overall reaction.

Given the rarity of really big impacts, I think prognosis is good (as BinaryDemon pointed out), but frankly, we'd likely be screwed if we became aware of a large asteroid on a collision course with Earth now. Even more, we monitor such a small portion of the sky, that even very large asteroids might never be seen till five minutes before they kill most of us.
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Why don't things like re-entering shuttles, fast planes and other stuff cause booms like that - is it a matter of speed, or shape of object, or is it that a blast wave rather than a sonic boom ?
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Why don't things like re-entering shuttles, fast planes and other stuff cause booms like that - is it a matter of speed, or shape of object, or is it that a blast wave rather than a sonic boom ?

Re-entering shuttles do cause giant sonic booms, which is why they tend to come in over vast tracks of barren land (Texas) or from over the ocean (Florida)
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sorry, wrong asteroid. Last week there were articles about an upcoming asteroid that should be within 20,000 miles. I thought THAT was big news.....lol but this is awesome!


yeah thats 2012 DA14 We're gonna see it tonight.
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We don't have the equipment to detect anything smaller than the one due later today.

Also, Tunguska caused a sonic boom, and flattened a few miles of forest.

There really is no conspiracy. Grow up.

A few? 800 square miles of forest. Russia was lucky it exploded in siberia and not moscow.
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This is true.

The risk has always been there, but public awareness of is fairly new.
I'm not confusing the two.

The very first reports of this were ~100 injured and some minor damage from an impactor, quite possibly one small enough to be quite common, just rarely striking a populated area.

Then figures were revised upwards to several hundred and the size was reveal at 10+ tons, which would make it a one in 5 year event.

Now some sources are calling it a one in a century blast (obviously comparing it to Tunguska), and injury reports are in the ballpark of ~1,000.
The blast most people saw and felt was indeed an atmospheric explosion.

Some chunks of it still reached the ground.
I think this is overly optimistic, all around.

We would need years, if not decades, of advance warning to be able to do anything about an asteroid large enough to prompt an extinction event. The odds of us finding one in time with the stuff we have pointed at the sky now is quite slim. I'm also doubtful of humanity's overall reaction.

Given the rarity of really big impacts, I think prognosis is good (as BinaryDemon pointed out), but frankly, we'd likely be screwed if we became aware of a large asteroid on a collision course with Earth now. Even more, we monitor such a small portion of the sky, that even very large asteroids might never be seen till five minutes before they kill most of us.

What you said in bold is really important for people to understand. We'd need at least a year but probably 5 to build the correct equipment etc etc. Space missions don't just happen and space missions to moving objects on a trajectory for earth don't happen easily.


One of the things a guy was commenting on my post earlier was saying was that "orbital mechanics are well understood" SURE THEY ARE.. for fixed orbit objects... Asteroids, meteors, comets... Those are much different things and we have to understand the orbits of other objects and it gets quite complicated because the gravity of so many OTHER objects have to be taken into account... EVEN OBJECTS WE HAVE NOT DETECTED biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif (which was kind of my point)

So rendezvous with an asteroid would not be even remotely simple with a manned ship.
 
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