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Someone trying to prove me wrong and calling me a liar, when I know for fact that i'm right can't handle being called an idiot twice?madsmiley.png
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Regardless if the cars electric or gas ran the article was very poorly managed. And even I feel Tesla motors got the short end of the stick from NYT.



But then again, anyone who watched Who Killed the Electric car would know about US feelings and electric cars.....Not good lol
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Do you pay for charging your battery or is it free?

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And if you do, how much does it cost?
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Do you pay for charging your battery or is it free?

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And if you do, how much does it cost?


You pay for the electricity and it aint cheap cuz electricity isn't cheap and it gets more expensive the more you consume.
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Do you pay for charging your battery or is it free?

EDIT:
And if you do, how much does it cost?


are you serious? you plug it in. so if you are at your home, you are using your electricity service, thus you will be billed whatever $/KWh you are normally charged...thus you are paying per "fillup" just on a different energy scale
post #176 of 178
I havent read everuthing yet butbi would love owning a tesla. Ibdrove 30-50 miles a day total. And the borders book store across the street has 3 fast charge stations in their parking lot so I could get a free boost while I grab some cds or something.

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Apologies for the double post tapatalk wont let me edit

I havent done the calculations between gas and electrocoty, but I currently use neaely 50 dollars a week in fuel. Im pretty sure per 30 miles the electricity costs less than the 4 dollars I pay for 91 octane (darn me for liking fast cars)

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1.) AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, You're a complete idiot. .[/B]
Please refrain from name calling, we are having a discussion, not a fight. if you can not participate in a discussion on OCN without name calling, perhaps you should find a different forum.

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The warranties don't cover the batteries when they routinely need them replaced every 20-30k miles
The warranty goes cover the full battery pack in the Volt - 8 years, 100,000 miles - read it for yourself HERE.

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2.) Because you don't pay for it over time.. its a lump sum payment.. unless you get a loan on it.
Ever heard of saving some money?

If you know that you may need to replace your battery pack sometime after 8 years or 100,000 miles, and it is going to cost you $8k at that time, then surely you can put aside $23 a month to cover the cost if you didn't want to have to pay $8K in one lump sum after 8 years or 100,000 miles.

And that is assuming you don't decide to upgrade to a newer and better EV in 8 years time. I don't know about you, but for me, I tend to upgrade my car to something better (or just for the change) every 5 or so years anyway.

If you owned a Volt, you could sell it after 5 years, it would still have 3 years of battery warranty to keep resale high, and you could get something newer and better.

Imagine the improvements to battery technology in 5 or so years and how much more range EV's will have because of that - wouldn;t you think it better to upgrade to something with more range then keep the Volt until you need to replace the battery pack wink.gif
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3.) How stupid are you? I found an article from Nissan showing real world testing at 45-7 miles.
Drive it properly and it will achieve the range I listed.

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Here is a different article showing 46 miles on new batteries, and over time less.
http://www.plugincars.com/real-world-leaf-range-27-38-miles.html
Did you seriously just link to a blogger who is making theoretical claims about the Leaf's range? lol, seriously? The blogger doesn;t own a Leaf and didn't even do a test of the range in a Leaf - he used some dodgy maths to suggest the range was 27-38 miles.

HERE is an actual real world range test of the Nissan leaf, where a guy drives the car from one point to another on regular roads at regular speeds. It shows the Leaf traveled 116 miles.

And HERE is a great article that goes into detail about the range you can expect when driving under different conditions. Even when u drive on a hot day withg aircon on and sapping power away from the battery, the Leaf can still manage 68 miles - and that is still enough range to support 99% of commuters in the US.

These are actual results, not bogus claims.

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4.) Apparently you do care idiot, because my original post in this thread was in general for all electric cars.
And your original post was full of untruths and FUD - hence my replies with the correct information for other OCN readers.

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And if you run out of juice? You clearly can't understand common sense.
An EV is not a car you buy to go driving across the country, or take on a long trip.

It's an EV and it's range is limited by battery capacity. EV's suit those whose commute fits in the range offered by the EV. It suits those who have multiple cars and want to replace one of them with something that will not cost a fortune in fuel for basic errands (get milk from the local store, drop kids of at school or sports practice etc).

Obviously you need to use a little of the grey matter between your ears before you go driving in an EV. You need to have a rough idea of the distance you need to travel and how much range your EV gets when fully charged.

If you can not understand that then an EV is not for you. But that doesn;t mean EVs are bad and not suitable for everyone and you need to go and post FUD about them every chance you get - it just means they don't suit your needs.

Peace.
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