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Originally Posted by TheProfiteer View Post

Also, look at what is happening in China, their pollution is out of control, and they dont even demand Petrol in the same per capita ratio as the US.

Just Imagine, only Imagine if every family in China and India had ONE just ONE ICE car per family. They would straight blacken the skies, Matrix Style.

and you want 100+ more years of Coal burning and ICE engines, man the world is so phucked because of people like you.

I don't believe the primary cause of the terrible pollution in China is the cars. If I recall correctly, the huge number of factories and power plants in the country with very low pollution standards are the issue.

EDIT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_in_China
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post #52 of 178
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Also, look at what is happening in China, their pollution is out of control, and they dont even demand Petrol in the same per capita ratio as the US.

Just Imagine, only Imagine if every family in China and India had ONE just ONE ICE car per family. They would straight blacken the skies, Matrix Style.

and you want 100+ more years of Coal burning and ICE engines, man the world is so phucked because of people like you.

US is based around the automobile. Most other nations are based on local market growth.
Without transit the US would die. Other countries are not as dependent on transit as the US is.
It makes it economically and political difficult to just change.

Make these technologies work for Supply Transit and the Military and it will radically change the consumer market as well.
It is just too expensive to transition the current Diesel Trucks used for shipping over to electric.
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Let me know whenever they design that electric jet for shipping and transit will you?
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Some of you are throwing around the term "Nuclear Power" all while blissfully ignorant of the facts.

As its Stands:

Fission is an ancient,inefficient, obsolete, and not to mention extremely hazardous and dirty method of electrical generation. The world has almost forgotten Fission, and I am glad. It was nothing more then a stepping stone in the right direction, but by it self is a technology that serves no viable purpose.

Why?
1: Rare Earth Metals are required, and by rare i mean REALLY FRIGGIN RARE
2: Radioactive waste that takes centuries to millenia to become inert.
3: Instability, and potential for huge disasters, I mean jesus look at what Japan went through.

Here where the Future lies.

FUSION, and not with lithum fusion either, thats extremely inefficient.

Look up "ITER" it will answer all your questions, thats the future, and thats when Tesla is going to become the next Ford.

If I was "ya'll" I'd start investing in Tesla, because in 7 years the world is making one hell of a turn around, count on it.

Thorium and other methods of fission are plenty safe and plenty efficient despite what the media and oil company backed papers claim.

Tesla isn't a good investment because it's too early. It's survival depends on being a luxury car brand and by some luck of the draw as of right now.
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You must know nothing of the oil boom going on right now in the Dakotas and Canada...

LOL. We know plenty. The methods to getting at this (is it shale they found I forgot that part). The problem is that it is only viable for 100 years like you mention. What does economics dictate about a product with limited quantities? The price must rise for it (though in the US I believe we are subsidized the full costs). The short term maybe be fine but prices are only going to go up and the environmental effects won't change.
     
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Yes but 100 years gives other technologies plenty of time to grow and become viable rather than now switching over to a bad and unworkable technology...
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As it stands now, anything other than Heavy Hydrogen fusion is being phased out, if the ITER project in France is a success than we have an answer to tall our energy needs and wants.

Thorium is based on the fission process, just like we need to stop breaking compounds via combustion, we also need to stop breaking atoms via fission.

Fusion is the only answer to long term sustainabilty for humanity.
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Also, look at what is happening in China, their pollution is out of control, and they dont even demand Petrol in the same per capita ratio as the US.

Just Imagine, only Imagine if every family in China and India had ONE just ONE ICE car per family. They would straight blacken the skies, Matrix Style.

and you want 100+ more years of Coal burning and ICE engines, man the world is so phucked because of people like you.

also Canada is not domestic, and I rather not tear up our natural landscape for an acient fuel source.

I have been spitting the term "ITER" left and right in this thread, but no one pays attention that until some one talks **** after quoting some one else.

Its time for us as a Nation, to set an example and move away from Oil, if you dont agree, then just like all the christian and islamanuts you doom this world to a slow and painful decline.

Look up ITER, thats the future, and there is no denying it.

Holy blanket statements batman.. So your entire argument is based on that ICE will never get more efficent and cleaner.. Look at how far ICE have come in the last 30-40yrs.

The issue will only be solved when gasoline is too expensive and we have to have another power source. People were saying the same thing about coal 50yrs ago.. In Utah the top 8 power plants are still using coal..

Sorry, but the world is in trouble because china and india have too many people!
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I just couldnt justify buying a car that is 30k plus when my 1968 volkswagen beetle gets 30 MPG and only cost me 2k to completely rebuild the entire car. What happens when you battery dies on your electric car and your not near a power outlet? Your screwed. What happens when my Internal combustion car runs out of gas? I get a ride to a gas station to get some gas. I am 16 years old and even I understand how unpractical electric cars are and how expensive they are too.
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Cold fusion would indeed be the kind of breakthrough that could viably put an end to the burning of fuels for energy. Until then I don't see any need to force people to abandon proven and usable technology...
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I find it hilarious that the "test driver" wrote another article basically saying that he is a journalist and is unbiased, therefore we must trust that he is telling the truth. He even went as far as blaming the people from Tesla because they didn't tell him how to charge it, and the point where he was driving around a parking lot he said it was dark and the charge station wasn't lit well enough. But when it came to the fact that he was constantly speeding he says "he remembered going only 54 mph and must have been mistaken." I also find it odd how he says the equipment said it was fully charged, yet he spent less and less time at each station. It's no different than a gas tank, if it's empty and you spend less and less time filling it each time it goes dry, you're going to run out of gas eventually. Personally I think that anyone who tells you they are unbiased is flat out lieing to you. There is no way in hell anyone can not show their opinion. In the end it's a case of one person says this is what happened and then changes his story each time evidence is brought forth to prove him wrong. I don't know what reasons he'd have for lieing but it looks like he is. Honesty is the foundation of good journalism and I truly think that the NY Times should rethink his employment status.
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