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I personally would like to see something along the lines of the 7870 XT cards, but with 3GB come from AMD in the 8000 series. The performance, especially compared to the cost, of them is huge, and in Crossfire they are stellar performers. As I said over in the main Titan thread, if I was at 1080P I would just run two of those in CF and call it a day, unfortunately at 1440P I have broken 2GB of VRAM usage before.

After ultimately passing on Titan, due to the performance not being as high as thought, I can't wait to see what AMD puts out with the 8000 series.

Essentially, this is why I am going with a titan over the 690. But I'll likely sell the titan as we get closer to the 8970 release, if I do decide to not sell it unopened immediately after I receive it.
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The problem is that card with 3GB would cannibalize 7950 sale quite a bit imo. I think the current 7870 ($220), 7870 XT($250), 7950($300) all hold their price point very well and there is no need to introduce a new product in this range.

He said 8k series. Not 7k. For example 8870 with 3gb ram
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The problem is that card with 3GB would cannibalize 7950 sale quite a bit imo. I think the current 7870 ($220), 7870 XT($250), 7950($300) all hold their price point very well and there is no need to introduce a new product in this range.

Not currently, I am talking about when the 8000 series hits, it would be awesome to see for the end user. It would absolutely cause havoc with their lineup to the naked eye, the 7870 XT already does it for 1080P gamers.

As it sits right now, there is no reason to buy a 7850 or 7950 if you game at 1080P. You just buy a 7870 XT, heck, yesterday they were on sale for $220 a pop! You can easily get the 7870 XT to perform at 7950 levels, even out of the box it is just a great card.
    
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I think it's obvious AMD doesn't have to worry about TITAN.

NVIDIA has priced it so high, it doesn't end up competing with anything other than the GTX 690....

Something tells me this factored heavily into AMD's decision to focus on the 7970 and not worry about a replacement before the holidays...
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Exactly and AMD is rumored to be working on a 7990 that is supposed to be 1 GHz+

And destroy their FirePRO sales? I doubt it.

You do realize most of the reason to buy a Quadro or FirePro is in the drivers and after-sale support, and not the hardware, right? The actual difference between my HD7950 and a FirePro S9000 is mostly in the software side of things. (eg. 10bit colour output, custom tailored drivers, etc)
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Something tells me this factored heavily into AMD's decision to focus on the 7970 and not worry about a replacement before the holidays...

Especially considering HD7970 performance is still going up quite a bit in driver updates.
    
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You do realize most of the reason to buy a Quadro or FirePro is in the drivers and after-sale support, and not the hardware, right? The actual difference between my HD7950 and a FirePro S9000 is mostly in the software side of things. (eg. 10bit colour output, custom tailored drivers, etc)

That didn't stop people/organizations from buying 5990s or 6990s for purely computing purposes, which lead to AMD refusing to release a 7990 in fears of cannibalizing their more profitable FirePro sales.
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You do realize most of the reason to buy a Quadro or FirePro is in the drivers and after-sale support, and not the hardware, right? The actual difference between my HD7950 and a FirePro S9000 is mostly in the software side of things. (eg. 10bit colour output, custom tailored drivers, etc)

That didn't stop people/organizations from buying 5990s or 6990s for purely computing purposes, which lead to AMD refusing to release a 7990 in fears of cannibalizing their more profitable FirePro sales.

There's no such thing as a HD5990, and this is the first I've heard of that.
    
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You do realize most of the reason to buy a Quadro or FirePro is in the drivers and after-sale support, and not the hardware, right? The actual difference between my HD7950 and a FirePro S9000 is mostly in the software side of things. (eg. 10bit colour output, custom tailored drivers, etc)
Especially considering HD7970 performance is still going up quite a bit in driver updates.

No, I wasn't. I was going off the history of every dual GPU from AMD coming out since at least the 4000 series being scooped up like mad by professional groups for compute.

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That didn't stop people/organizations from buying 5990s or 6990s for purely computing purposes, which lead to AMD refusing to release a 7990 in fears of cannibalizing their more profitable FirePro sales.

This.

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There's no such thing as a HD5990, and this is the first I've heard of that.

The naming all to hell, he was probably referring to the 5970x2 and you're well aware of that. The point is, even more reinforced if the only major difference is software support, a modded bios is only a few lines of code away.
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You do realize most of the reason to buy a Quadro or FirePro is in the drivers and after-sale support, and not the hardware, right? The actual difference between my HD7950 and a FirePro S9000 is mostly in the software side of things. (eg. 10bit colour output, custom tailored drivers, etc)
Especially considering HD7970 performance is still going up quite a bit in driver updates.

No, I wasn't. I was going off the history of every dual GPU from AMD coming out since at least the 4000 series being scooped up like mad by professional groups for compute.

By compute do you mean GPGPU? If so, that'd probably why. Most of the FirePro buyers tend to buy in bulk too.
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There's no such thing as a HD5990, and this is the first I've heard of that.

The naming all to hell, he was probably referring to the 5970x2 and you're well aware of that. The point is, even more reinforced if the only major difference is software support, a modded bios is only a few lines of code away.

It's just the plain HD5970, does no-one remember their computer history?! And yes, I am, but it also shows a lack of knowledge to call them the incorrect names.

It's not just that...You can't mod the BIOS and immediately get the support from AMD.
Also, proof of dual GPU cards being scooped up like mad by professional groups for compute?
    
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No, I wasn't. I was going off the history of every dual GPU from AMD coming out since at least the 4000 series being scooped up like mad by professional groups for compute.
This.
The naming all to hell, he was probably referring to the 5970x2 and you're well aware of that. The point is, even more reinforced if the only major difference is software support, a modded bios is only a few lines of code away.

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