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Your language heavily implies you are presenting your opinion as fact. Just because you don't explicitly say "this is a fact" or "this is an opinion" before every sentence doesn't mean we can't derive that meaning from what you write.

You were attempting to say that AMD can't allow NVidia to release TWO new generations of cards, while 7970 was their flagship desktop GPU. This is true, it would be a huge blow to AMD for NVidia to beat their flaghsip with 2 consecutive generations, before AMD could put another model to market. You follow this accurate statement up with a huge logic gaff of somehow implying NVidia will not release its chip until AMD is ready to release theirs. There is absolutely ZERO reason to come to that as a conclusion.

I'm sorry, maybe you should be a little more accurate with how you choose your words in these posts, if the above was not your intention. Your intention however, does not determine the meaning of your words, and your words were wrong.

I NEVER said Nvidia was going to wait for AMD to release their cards. I said that according to the Sweclockers article Nvidia is going to release in Q4 2013 which would make sense considering AMD's recent candor about not releasing anything new this year. My guess is that they are fairly certain 7XX isn't right around the corner otherwise they wouldn't be discussing the 7970 GE being their flagship card for the rest of the year.

By the way, since you seem to need disclaimers to tell opinion from fact, the preceding paragraph was just my OPINION.
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So far this thread has made me blinksmiley.gif:doh.gifthinking.gif and then doh.gif again.

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*drumroll* and nowwwwwwwwwwwwww nvidia ...DAMN i hope 700 series comes out sheeit
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Slow down grasshopper. Nvidia still has 6 weeks to hit the year mark from the 600 series launch last year. There has also been no articles stating that Nvidia is not releasing any new gpu's this year. Infact they already have one coming out. Ever heard of Titan?

Don't worry, I quote things before I read them too.
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I'm wondering if this is just the new reality, and we need to get used to ever lengthening periods between new releases. With the discrete market a shrinking part of the market, and with both Nvidia and AMD focusing so much on the mobile (and for AMD, console) markets, they may end up putting fewer and fewer resoureces into high-performance crads and more into reducing power consumption and improving mobile performance. Kind of the same approach Intel is taking with Haswell - incrememental improvements in performance but big gains in power.
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It seems that by "clarifying" things AMD has actually just stepped in it again and created an even bigger internet controversy. This is why they should have just kept their mouths shut and released when they were ready. Even if they weren't going to release anything else this year there is no point and coming out and saying that in February... doh.gif
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Personally I'm okay with this. Consoles aren't exactly improving at lightning speed, which means most games aren't either. I hate that that is true, but it is. Basically what we have is AMD saying that they know what the near future of the market is going to be like, which is A: Good, because they don't need any surprises and B: intuitive, since they're putting hardware into pretty much all of the next gen consoles.

I really don't see the new consoles eating up a lot of development time for AMD. It's all old tried and true tech, it's all locked down, there won't be any upgrading, and it's all standardized. To me, this says that AMD is about to get a huge tsunami of cash headed their way with little investment on their part, and I hope they use that wisely to shore up their banks and shape up with a more practical and manageable business model, and to push any new tech they choose to develop through the atmosphere.

They're not going to stop pushing the limits on discrete PC cards. That would just be stupid. They are going to want to constantly push ahead and stay aggressively competitive with Nviso that they can win contracts for the console generation coming ing after this one. That's just simple logic, especially considering that I don't see this console generation lasting nearly as long as the last, since they're not exactly a technological revolution.

Considering the 7850 or equivalent was put into these consoles I would say it wasn't so much about advanced tech but more about the price between going Nvidia vs Amd. You could go back 3 years and find gpu's that are faster then the 7850. Console's have to stay affordable. So there is one thing you can count on them never having. The latest and greatest tech. With that comes a hefty price tag. Amd won over the next generation console's because they won the price bid. Its business.
 
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I NEVER said Nvidia was going to wait for AMD to release their cards. I said that according to the Sweclockers article Nvidia is going to release in Q4 2013 which would make sense considering AMD's recent candor about not releasing anything new this year. My guess is that they are fairly certain 7XX isn't right around the corner otherwise they wouldn't be discussing the 7970 GE being their flagship card for the rest of the year.

By the way, since you seem to need disclaimers to tell opinion from fact, the preceding paragraph was just my OPINION.

Keep beating the dead horse, we realize you don't fully understand the implications of the words you write.

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So far this thread has made me blinksmiley.gif:doh.gifthinking.gif and then doh.gif again.

I had to go back and find this post again just to quote it. Some people simply don't want to be accurate.
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Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this good news? I think AMD's new GPU architecture was originally slated for 2014, but now they're targeting Q4 2013. It sounds like they're just skipping a generation that would've been relatively iterative anyway, and pushing their next generation ahead.
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Keep beating the dead horse, we realize you don't fully understand the implications of the words you write.
I had to go back and find this post again just to quote it. Some people simply don't want to be accurate.

Who is WE exactly? You're the only one in this thread having reading comprehension issues with what I wrote. rolleyes.gif
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