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Anyone have an idea how hard it would be to build one of these? Or suggestions for mods? I think I would also like to add 6 TBs on RAID 5. Ideas on cost to build?

Hardware:
AMD Opteron™ 64-bit Quad Core Processor
2GB high-speed RAM
Motherboard, 1000 FSB with RAID
2 x high-speed Gigabit Ethernet
2 x 250GB HDD (7200 RPM serial ATA)
DVD/CDROM Drive
600 watt power supply
12 months parts warranty

Software:
Ubuntu™ Linux 10.04 (64-bit Server Edition)
RAID dual-drive automatic backup
SSH secure access
SAMBA file server for Windows™ Integration
Apache web server, including PHP
MySQL database
Spark network messaging
Postfix Email server, including intranet webmail
Network User setup Utility

It is a Ubuntu Server built by an Indonesian company called Okusi Computers and presently sold for about $2200.
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Unless those are all server parts and it comes with a really fancy case...that price seems a little high to me. Also, I would want to the latest LTS for ubuntu, 12.04 (but that's just me). I think all that included software is already free. So I can't think of why the price would be so outside of the special server-grade motherboard/special case/hardware support contract.

So I think it would be relatively easy and way less expensive to build this same machine from parts. Just have to keep in mind the case/PSU is going to be very important if you want a fancy slip drives in/out feature.

Do you know what capacity drives you want to use? They come up to 4TBs now. You probably want 2TB at least x4?
 
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Originally Posted by CanadianPilgrim View Post

Anyone have an idea how hard it would be to build one of these? Or suggestions for mods? I think I would also like to add 6 TBs on RAID 5. Ideas on cost to build?

Hardware:
AMD Opteron™ 64-bit Quad Core Processor
2GB high-speed RAM
Motherboard, 1000 FSB with RAID
2 x high-speed Gigabit Ethernet
2 x 250GB HDD (7200 RPM serial ATA)
DVD/CDROM Drive
600 watt power supply
12 months parts warranty

Software:
Ubuntu™ Linux 10.04 (64-bit Server Edition)
RAID dual-drive automatic backup
SSH secure access
SAMBA file server for Windows™ Integration
Apache web server, including PHP
MySQL database
Spark network messaging
Postfix Email server, including intranet webmail
Network User setup Utility

It is a Ubuntu Server built by an Indonesian company called Okusi Computers and presently sold for about $2200.

Opterons are server CPUs, which means the motherboard is server grade as well. However, quad core Opterons don't really exist anymore. So either that equipment is Socket F, which is old or Socket C32, which is low-mid range. If it was a quad core G34 Socket CPU, you are wasting money.

Every bit of that software is free, and like said aforementioned, that distro version is older. You could build something much better, for a lot less. For example:
Motherboard: TYAN S8010WGM2NR ATX Socket C32 - $339.99
CPU: AMD Opteron 4234 3.1Ghz 6-core - $194.99

Or something newer such as:

Motherboard: SUPERMICRO MBD-H8SGL-O Socket G34 - $224.99
CPU: AMD Opteron 6320 2.8Ghz 8-core - $304.99


Cases can be had for $60 for a cheapo, up to $500+ for a high end case.
PSUs, are $50-100.
RAM--you can get 8GB ECC Registered DIMMs for $60.
Drives--if you want 7200 RPM spindle drives, you can get 2TB drives for $100-125 and 3TB for ~$150, for consumer grade. Enterprise grade 2TBs are around $200.

That server you found is a rip off, in my opinion. There are other barebone kits out there such as:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101318

That just need RAM, drives, and CPU. You have so many options, it really depends on if this is for home use or if enterprise reliability is required.
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Thanks for the comments! Much appreciated. I have been out of the computer market for a few years now and the 4-5 computers in my household are needing replacing.

My goal is to replace one of the computers with a server and then use netbooks or tablets as clients. Data will be centralized and hardware and software costs should be lower.

I have searched days on the internet to find a "project" I could copy with little luck. In the alternative, I have tried to find a suitable pre-built box (hence the reason for this post).

Ideally, this is the server I am looking for (mostly stuck on trying to select hardware right now).
  • Easy to set-up and maintain for a novice
  • Be fast, responsive, current in technology and hardware upgradable over an expected a 10-year life
  • Smaller the better, running cool and green (smart power management)
  • Built in UPS
  • To function as a media server, file server, torrent pod, application server and, eventually, web server
  • For the media server, thinking about 3TB x2 on SnapRaid (have almost 1.7 GB in collection now)
  • For the file server and application server, thinking about 500GBx2 mirrored on a RAID card
  • I am not sure if I should include a further hard drive for the torrents and web server.
  • To serve applications, I will install WinXP or Win7 or both in Ubuntu by Virtualization, and I presume this can be done on the same hard drive which is purposed for sharing files

I am a confused by:

1) the blade style units like the one posted by tycoonbob: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101318&utm_campaign=website&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email as that appears to be just a motherboard in a case. Where are the bays for the hard drives? Would I need some other box to mount that blade?

2) There are boxes on the market (like the Iomega Storcentre px4-300d) which seem to function mostly as file servers and sometimes media servers and even web servers (but not application servers). I don't find much on the internet about anyone installing Ubuntu and linux applications over top of the software provided with these units. Would it be feasible to install the host of applications, cited in the initial post in this thread, on one of these storage boxes?

3) Why is that Okusi unit advertising "2 x high-speed Gigabit Ethernet"? What is the ``2 x`` about?

Thanks for your input. I glean from every word you post.
Edited by CanadianPilgrim - 2/16/13 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by CanadianPilgrim View Post

Thanks for the comments! Much appreciated. I have been out of the computer market for a few years now and the 4-5 computers in my household are needing replacing.

My goal is to replace one of the computers with a server and then use netbooks or tablets as clients. Data will be centralized and hardware and software costs should be lower.

I have searched days on the internet to find a "project" I could copy with little luck. In the alternative, I have tried to find a suitable pre-built box (hence the reason for this post).

Ideally, this is the server I am looking for (mostly stuck on trying to select hardware right now).
  • Easy to set-up and maintain for a novice
  • Be fast, responsive, current in technology and hardware upgradable over an expected a 10-year life
  • Smaller the better, running cool and green (smart power management)
  • Built in UPS
  • To function as a media server, file server, torrent pod, application server and, eventually, web server
  • For the media server, thinking about 3TB x2 on SnapRaid (have almost 1.7 GB in collection now)
  • For the file server and application server, thinking about 500GBx2 mirrored on a RAID card
  • I am not sure if I should include a further hard drive for the torrents and web server.
  • To serve applications, I will install WinXP or Win7 or both in Ubuntu by Virtualization, and I presume this can be done on the same hard drive which is purposed for sharing files

I am a confused by:

1) the blade style units like the one posted by tycoonbob: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101318&utm_campaign=website&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email as that appears to be just a motherboard in a case. Where are the bays for the hard drives? Would I need some other box to mount that blade?

2) There are boxes on the market (like the Iomega Storcentre px4-300d) which seem to function mostly as file servers and sometimes media servers and even web servers (but not application servers). I don't find much on the internet about anyone installing Ubuntu and linux applications over top of the software provided with these units. Would it be feasible to install the host of applications, cited in the initial post in this thread, on one of these storage boxes?

3) Why is that Okusi unit advertising "2 x high-speed Gigabit Ethernet"? What is the ``2 x`` about?

Thanks for your input. I glean from every word you post.


I don't know if I can answer all those questions adequately but I will say the "2x1gig Ethernet port" bit is referring to two separate Ethernet ports on the mohterboard. Like perhaps you have two different networks, a "production" that doesn't have a link to the internet and a guest or "unsafe" network that is on the internet (and for everything else). It's also good for linux (or bsd)-based routers/firewalls/proxies if you wanted to make something like that. Or I guess redundant internet connections.

I'm not sure what you mean by a built-in UPS. I know there's servers with redundant power supplies and maybe I missed out on a generation of server hardware but I don't think I've seen a server with a built-in battery to keep the thing running at a loss of power (I have seen batteries attached to RAID cards though). I guess one of those large "desktop replacement" laptops with a battery might qualify as a "built-in ups" but that's probably not what you're referring to tongue.gif .

I don't know if you were already going to do this but I would recommend virtualizing all the different servers so it's that much easier to switch to new hardware (whether the server OS is Linux or Windows or whatever).

And I don't know if this will help since a large portion of it is still over my head (something I'm working on) but this so called LAN party house might be a good project to try and duplicate. Though not every body is going to be able to go to that scale due budget constraints (presumably). If nothing else it might inspire different directions for your purposes.
 
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I am only supposing that the technology is to the point where UPS is built in. Maybe I got that from the battery supplied hard drives, though I think I saw a pre-built box with a built-in UPS.

The so called LAN party house project was really intended for gaming, which is not one of my purposes. All he writes about the server part his system is this:
"Protoman is a 2U rackmount server machine with the following specs:

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230
Motherboard: Intel S1200BTL
RAM: 4GB (2x2GB DDR3-1333 ECC)
OS hard drive: 60GB SSD
Master image storage: 2x1TB HDD (RAID-1)
Snapshot storage: 240GB SATA-3 SSD"

I don't find where he discusses the reasons for the storage configuration and most of the article discusses how his gaming units were running on Ubuntu WINE and his migration to Windows 7 as a result of his bad experience with WINE.
Edited by CanadianPilgrim - 2/16/13 at 5:34pm
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I have been recommended to use the Intel Atom Processor for its compatability with a small form factor, and its ability to run "cool and green." I note, though, that the Atom 1) runs slower than even an Intel i3 and, 2) it does not support virtualization. Any other thoughts?

On the support of virtualization, only the "server procerssors" support that. Is processor support for virtualization really necessary for a linux virtualized environment?
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I have been recommended to use the Intel Atom Processor for its compatability with a small form factor, and its ability to run "cool and green." I note, though, that the Atom 1) runs slower than even an Intel i3 and, 2) it does not support virtualization. Any other thoughts?

On the support of virtualization, only the "server procerssors" support that. Is processor support for virtualization really necessary for a linux virtualized environment?

There are atoms that have the virtualization CPU extension. That doesn't mean an atom is ever a good idea outside of a last resort. That's my viewpoint anyway.

And in case you really want to know yes, you can do virtualization without the CPU extension but not with the "hardware level" hypervisors of vmware/kvm/xen/hyper-v. I actually did this myself recently: VirtualBox-based, linux-hosted hypervisor (I wrote a guide also).

Intel/AMD CPUs with the VM extension are common and cheap now though so there's not much reason to go without the extension unless you're just trying to utilize an old spare/still perfectly functional box (as I did).

Side note: if the OP or anybody else is interested, here is the article on virtualbox I mentioned, though it still needs some work.
 
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