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Never saw this taking off. Most of the people I know that own a Wii are not willing to get the the U simply because they don't see much benefit in upgrading. That could be because I mostly know cheap people, or it could be a trend. You decide.

They are still on pentium 4's too I bet, facebook works just fine on one wink.gif

Give the system some time to get games. Sick of people stating "it's nitendo's dreamcast". I've heard that since that crap even since the gamecube days. Even if the system was a complete and utter flop, Nintendo would be fine financially.
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The problem is that gamers feel such groups exist in the first place. Rarely was a distinction made prior to this generation, and only after teenagers and insecure adults attempted to distance themselves from "casuals" did Nintendo find themselves having to please either/or.

The fact of the matter is that Nintendo is appealing to the same sort of gamer that they were thirty years ago. Mario Galaxy and Skyward Sword are hoping to not only bring old fans back, but attract a new generation of gamers the way that Super Mario Bros. and The Legend of Zelda did on NES, or Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time on N64.

Not only that, but Nintendo hasn't had strong third-party support on home consoles since the SNES. That's two whole generations of competent hardware prior to the "casual" Wii where Nintendo couldn't attract what is now known as the "hardcore" market. The Wii wasn't some sort of abandonment of this imaginary group of gamers, it was the same old Nintendo that we knew for nearly a decade, but with renewed success in an expanding market.

Having read this, I feel that, in a way, Nintendo dug their own grave. The main issue is probably the 3rd party support. Sony and Microsoft don't make games that are solely responsible for someone purchasing their consoles. Sure they may have a few release titles from their own studios, but in the end 3rd party support is what truly makes or breaks a console.

However, as you say, there was never a "casual" and "hardcore" gamer before the Wii, probably because there was never a successful console that made a distinction between the two.
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However, as you say, there was never a "casual" and "hardcore" gamer before the Wii, probably because there was never a successful console that made a distinction between the two.

I completely agree and they def did dig their own graves by marketing themselves solely as a "fun for the whole family console".... they gave themselves that distinction and its the price they pay for it. yes they gained a hell of allot of market share by getting my 55 yr old aunt to buy a wii but they isolated the gamers who BUY games. Since the wii U was released this broad market that they attracted with the original wii prob wont jump to get the latest one IMO

i know the only reason i have a wii and will buy a wii U is to play mario and zelda and that is it nothing else really catches my attention
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I'm selling my 360 (it hasn't been plugged in for years), and probably won't get a neXtbox.

What I do want Is Pikmin 3, and Smash Brothers running at high resolution, and oh my goodness PLEASE Nintendo make an HD F-zero!


Part of the problem is that I have thousands of hours worth of games on Steam, I could effectively log into Steam and play amazing games non-stop for months on end. If I'm going to waste my time with a console, I want it to be an experience I cannot get on PC. Most top console games are just flat out obsolete, inferior, I have no reason to play them. At least Nintendo puts some serious effort into trying to be different.


As far as sales go (as previously mentioned), everything sold terribly compared to the Wii, the Wii U is actually selling decently well.
Wii U hardware will push games that make the 360 look like a piece of junk, chances are it will mostly be first party stuff, but the system is very capable.

Exactly the reason I'm keeping my Wii U, and bought one in the first place. I can get games and experiences I simply can't get on my PC, while the Xbox and Playstation offer the same ol', same ol' that I can play in a better format on my computer. Nintendo's got the exclusives and first-party "good stuff" that I want. F-Zero would rock, we know there's a new 3d zelda and mario coming as well as super smash bros., there's Wind Waker HD later this year, Pikmin 3 and Monster Hunter are coming soon, etc. There are also some good-looking third-party titles like Lego City Undercover, the best version for consoles of NFS Most Wanted, Rayman Legends, etc. on the way. The system's brand new, so the titles aren't out yet, but they're coming for sure. As far as graphics go, it's already looking way better than the PS3/360 on titles like Most Wanted and Assassin's Creed 3, having just come out... it's only going to get better from here, just as every other console has in the past.
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Having read this, I feel that, in a way, Nintendo dug their own grave. The main issue is probably the 3rd party support. Sony and Microsoft don't make games that are solely responsible for someone purchasing their consoles. Sure they may have a few release titles from their own studios, but in the end 3rd party support is what truly makes or breaks a console.

However, as you say, there was never a "casual" and "hardcore" gamer before the Wii, probably because there was never a successful console that made a distinction between the two.

*yawn* I disagree... 3rd-party support doesn't make or break a console if there's good enough first-party support, and we know Nintendo has the goods. Third-party is just gravy for that, and I can play the games I want better on the PC. As far as "casual" and "hardcore", that's a gamer-made abstraction that really has no actual bearing on anything.
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I bought a Wii U for the kids for Christmas. The kids love it. Mario is great fun and it's nice to finally see him in HD. But that's the problem. What else am I suppose to buy for these kids??? (ahhh...who am I kidding....me too)

Weak launch lineup. There's not even a trickle of games yet. Mario U and Nintendo land are getting old fast.
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*yawn* I disagree... 3rd-party support doesn't make or break a console if there's good enough first-party support, and we know Nintendo has the goods. Third-party is just gravy for that, and I can play the games I want better on the PC. As far as "casual" and "hardcore", that's a gamer-made abstraction that really has no actual bearing on anything.

I couldn't agree more. Nintendo, for me at least, is all about 1st Party titles. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't have purchased one.
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I bought a Wii U for the kids for Christmas. The kids love it. Mario is great fun and it's nice to finally see him in HD. But that's the problem. What else am I suppose to buy for these kids??? (ahhh...who am I kidding....me too)

Weak launch lineup. There's not even a trickle of games yet. Mario U and Nintendo land are getting old fast.
I couldn't agree more. Nintendo, for me at least, is all about 1st Party titles. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't have purchased one.

All system launches have weak line ups. Look at the pathetic launch of the PS3. It was MONTHS before the 2nd bunch of games came out.

The Wii-U really doesn't have a "system seller" type of game.
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I bought a Wii U for the kids for Christmas. The kids love it. Mario is great fun and it's nice to finally see him in HD. But that's the problem. What else am I suppose to buy for these kids??? (ahhh...who am I kidding....me too)

Weak launch lineup. There's not even a trickle of games yet. Mario U and Nintendo land are getting old fast.
I couldn't agree more. Nintendo, for me at least, is all about 1st Party titles. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't have purchased one.

Epic Mickey 2 / Sonic Racing / Family Party / Transformers Prime / Wipe out 3

depending on their age they're more. Maybe you're having difficulty find games for you?
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