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2/16/13 at 10:32am

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The limiting factor is not the HDD itself. It's a combination of the (much slower) USB, and the fact that other things are trying to access the drive at the same time (viruses). It also very likely has write-back cashe disabled since it's an OEM machine. Enabling this alone can double or tipple your speeds when manipulating several tiny files simultaneously.

can i do that in their bios?

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2/16/13 at 10:54am

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but they dont use any graphics really, they read their emails and send new ones out, they look at a picture from email every now and then, its not really worth the $50 for a new gpu that they dont really use, and the psu is fine for their system, its 300w and their probably using 125w

Unless they are living entirely out of outlook or some other non-web based email client, the graphics card might actually be a good idea. Something as simple as loading up the webpage that your web-mail is located on can often have many many tasks that a GPU can do faster than a CPU.

That said, if they really just live exclusively out of their mail client, you're probably right that it won't help ENOUGH to justify the cost (unless you just have an old unused one laying around).

I agree, the PSU is fine unless you're adding new hardware. A HDD/SSD doesn't count - that's single digit wattage.

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can i do that in their bios?

In windows actually.

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Core i7 980x	GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5	MSI GeForce GTX 680 Lightning	ASUS Geforce GTX 560ti DCII
Graphics	RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
BFG GeForce GTX 295	Kingston HyperX T1	Intel X25-M (SSD)	WD Caviar Black FASS
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
OCZ Vertex Turbo (SSD)	WD Velociraptor	WD Caviar Black FALS	Sony DVD Burner w/ Lightscribe
Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
LG Bluray + HDDVD	Black Ice GTX 360	Black Ice GTX 240	Panaflo High Speed - Push-Pull w/ shrouds
OS	OS	OS	Monitor
Windows 7 Pro (64)	Windows XP Pro (32)	Ubuntu (64)	ASUS VK266H Black 25.5" 2ms LCD
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
X-Armor U9BL (Mech)	Corsair 1000HX	Cooler Master HAF 932	Razer Deathadder (3G V3 internals inside of she...
Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio	Audio
Razer Goliathus Alpha - Speed	ATH-A900X	ATH-A700	Maudio AV-40
Audio	Audio	Audio	Audio
Polk PSW-10	Etymotic ER-6i	Zalman Mic-1 (Clip-on Mic)	Auzentech X-Fi Forte 7.1
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WD Caviar 160GB	Vista Home Premium 64bit	Ubuntu	Samsung 226BW
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Razer Mantis Control	Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music
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OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Professional 64	LG 47in LED LCD	Saitek Eclipse Lite-touch Wireless	Seasonic X750 Gold
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CM690 II	Passive bookshelfspeakers + amp.	Dual TV-Tuner card	Comcast decoder card.
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BFG GeForce GTX 295	Kingston HyperX T1	Intel X25-M (SSD)	WD Caviar Black FASS
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
OCZ Vertex Turbo (SSD)	WD Velociraptor	WD Caviar Black FALS	Sony DVD Burner w/ Lightscribe
Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
LG Bluray + HDDVD	Black Ice GTX 360	Black Ice GTX 240	Panaflo High Speed - Push-Pull w/ shrouds
OS	OS	OS	Monitor
Windows 7 Pro (64)	Windows XP Pro (32)	Ubuntu (64)	ASUS VK266H Black 25.5" 2ms LCD
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
X-Armor U9BL (Mech)	Corsair 1000HX	Cooler Master HAF 932	Razer Deathadder (3G V3 internals inside of she...
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Razer Goliathus Alpha - Speed	ATH-A900X	ATH-A700	Maudio AV-40
Audio	Audio	Audio	Audio
Polk PSW-10	Etymotic ER-6i	Zalman Mic-1 (Clip-on Mic)	Auzentech X-Fi Forte 7.1
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WD Caviar 160GB	Vista Home Premium 64bit	Ubuntu	Samsung 226BW
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Razer Mantis Control	Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music
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Windows 7 Professional 64	LG 47in LED LCD	Saitek Eclipse Lite-touch Wireless	Seasonic X750 Gold
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2/16/13 at 10:58am

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how would i go about doing that in windows, and i might have a gtx 550ti laying around

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2/16/13 at 11:01am

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Do you live near a microcenter? I think you should be able to get an i3 paired with a 7950 or 7870 LE with that budget..

$33 NZXT Source 1
$20AR CX430 v2 (you had the right idea)
$60 HDD
$130 i3-3225 + cheap mobo from microcenter http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/e055b2fc#/e055b2fc/33
= 243 so far

that leaves you the $200 or so dollars for a graphics card
http://slickdeals.net/newsearch.php?firstonly=1&q=7870+le

Done dealio?

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2/16/13 at 11:03am

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no microcenter...
EDIT: its for my grandparents to check email, they dont need a 7950!

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2/16/13 at 11:05am

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HAHA ok sorry.

In which case I'd get an intel solution.
The graphics are less important compared to CPU performance.

i3 or a solid Ivy or Sandy Pentium should dish it out to them super fast.

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2/16/13 at 11:06am

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Caching: My Computer, right click any drive, properties, hardware, select drive you want to change, hit properties again, under policies, enable write caching.

Any cheap $30 or less graphics card would do, I got a 8400GS for my parents computer, does everything it needs at 1080 without breaking a sweat.

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2600k 4.7GHz@+0.170 #3105C502	Gigabyte GA-G1 Sniper 3	EVGA GTX 580 3GB	EVGA GTX 580 3GB
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Corsair Vengeance 4x4GB 1600MHz	Samsung 830 256*2	LSI MEGARaid 6920-81	Seagate Barracuda 2*320Gb Raid0
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda XT 3TB4 2 Raid1	Hitachi Desktar 7k 3TB	Seagate Constellation 2.5" 1TB	320GB Hitachi
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling
Westen Digital Caviar Green 1Tb	LaCie external	Corsair Hydro H100 + push(stock)/push+pull(Nois...	Stack Coolermaster Blademaster (exhaust)
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	OS
Corsair stock fan mid-intake + Blademaster(hard...	Bionaire Dual weilding 230mm window unit	LAMPTRON FC2	Ubuntu 10.10 x64
OS	OS	Monitor	Monitor
Windows 7 Ultimate x64	Apple OSx SL 10.6.8	Dell U2711	ASUS VW246H
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ASUS VH242H	Ducky DK1008 (blue)	OCZ ZX Serie 1000w	Silverstone TJ10B-W
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AMD Phenom II X4 960t	GA-990FXA-UD3	EVGA GTX 580 3GB x2	G.SKILL Ripjaws 4*2GB
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Corsair Vengeance 4x4GB 1600MHz	Samsung 830 256*2	LSI MEGARaid 6920-81	Seagate Barracuda 2*320Gb Raid0
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda XT 3TB4 2 Raid1	Hitachi Desktar 7k 3TB	Seagate Constellation 2.5" 1TB	320GB Hitachi
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling
Westen Digital Caviar Green 1Tb	LaCie external	Corsair Hydro H100 + push(stock)/push+pull(Nois...	Stack Coolermaster Blademaster (exhaust)
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	OS
Corsair stock fan mid-intake + Blademaster(hard...	Bionaire Dual weilding 230mm window unit	LAMPTRON FC2	Ubuntu 10.10 x64
OS	OS	Monitor	Monitor
Windows 7 Ultimate x64	Apple OSx SL 10.6.8	Dell U2711	ASUS VW246H
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
ASUS VH242H	Ducky DK1008 (blue)	OCZ ZX Serie 1000w	Silverstone TJ10B-W
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2/16/13 at 11:14am

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already enabled

and i cant run exe files??? ***!

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Corsair Vengeance	caviar blue	corsair H80	windows 7 Ultimate
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Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
HDtv and Hp 23 inch	logitech g510	KingWin LZP 1000w platinum	Cooler Master Storm Stryker
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2/16/13 at 11:16am

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Edit your OP to let people know you are going to try to just repair their existing machine. A C2D is more than powerful enough for what they need, not to mention itll save your grandparents $500 that they can now spend on bingo instead.

I kid, I kid

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well i did note that i would not need a $150 monitor as they already have a 22 in monitor, and i will
Edited by Bazinga69 - 2/16/13 at 12:11pm

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Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
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