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sort of, a pendium dual core (core 2 duo) 3gb ddr2
I see. That stuff must be pretty hot (temperature wise). Try the SSD + HDD thing, but I am not sure if the motherboard can fully utilize the speed of the SSD.
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I know that the motherbaord cant, it barely does sata1
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I have this power supply and it has not given any trouble.My only tools to "check it out" are reviews and how mine has been trouble free.I could ask myself the question "how good of a power supply comes from spending $27.00? For my main rig I would feel better with something in the same (or up too 520W) wattage range,but used (but still with a good bit of the warranty left)so I can get a bit more quality,Mine is running my PFsense router/firewall so it is not stressed at all.I do not think mine running almost a year 24/7 is an adaquate testament because it is not stressed.
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im assuming your talking about the corsair, well they use theirs once a day for two hrs to read email, it will not be stressed
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Even at IDE speeds you would see a noticeable improvement from a SSD. It's not about bandwidth, it's access time. When windows is booting up and loading 8902365 different tiny files all at once, a spindle drive needs to skip all over the place to find the files in the correct order, wasting most of it's time doing essentially nothing. A SSD even with identical read and write speeds wouldn't need to seek, it can pull data from anywhere virtually instantly. No wasted time seeking between files means faster real world reads and writes even on identical bandwidth.

Anyway, the hot hard drive is probably fine. It doesn't have a color like modern WD drives because WD didn't implement their color coding system until a few years ago. What you have is a remnant of their old naming scheme. Seeing as it is in a OEM machine, it is probably a bargain-bin model when historically ran incredibly hot if used extensively. As mentioned by another user, with all the viruses you have, it's probably being used 24/7 and never getting a break to cool off. I'd run a test on it to make sure, but chances are once it is wiped clean, it wont have any issue.
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post #96 of 145
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I see. That stuff must be pretty hot (temperature wise). Try the SSD + HDD thing, but I am not sure if the motherboard can fully utilize the speed of the SSD.
Sata 3 6gb/s can't even fully utilize ssd's. mad.gif
If your town is big enough to have a best buy it surely must have a REAL computer store.

It looks like your grandparents system is about the same age as my parents system as it's equipped pretty much the same. some hp out of the box junk. BUT, theirs has a full 7200rpm hdd.

I would guess that it's suffering from junk file itis, when the user never uninstalls anything.
Go through the windows uninstall software window and ditch any bloatware. printers and cameras are bad for it I find,
Give it a swipe with CCCleaner
run MSConfig and take everything you can off the startup. you should end up with just sound driver, antivirus and graphics driver. Theres no need for itunes, java and adobe to be checking for an update every power-up. devil.gif
If that helps you may have just saved the install. If not just reinstall windows see how that goes.

If you do put money into it I would suggest going this way. If you can find a 2x2gb ddr2 kit cheap or used go for it but it's probably unnecessary.

Like someone eluded to earlier on a system of that age to add even a $50 GPU will take alot of load of the processor and ram.
I own and have used one of the accelerator cache ssd's, I found it to work flawlessly. However it (and any ssd because of trim) only work with windows 7. It gives you i would say 70-80% of the performance of an ssd. anything you use regularly opens instantly.
And of course why would you keep an old psu in there?
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it can move things on to a usb Hdd at 821kb/s :0 this makes me mad! stupid slow hdd
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Its not the HDD, its the fact that you are moving it though USB. USB 1.0 is slooooooooow.
    
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it can move things on to a usb Hdd at 821kb/s :0 this makes me mad! stupid slow hdd

The limiting factor is not the HDD itself. It's a combination of the (much slower) USB, and the fact that other things are trying to access the drive at the same time (viruses). It also very likely has write-back cashe disabled since it's an OEM machine. Enabling this alone can double or tipple your speeds when manipulating several tiny files simultaneously.
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but they dont use any graphics really, they read their emails and send new ones out, they look at a picture from email every now and then, its not really worth the $50 for a new gpu that they dont really use, and the psu is fine for their system, its 300w and their probably using 125w
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