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Hey everyone.

I'm thinking about building a very cheap/budget mini-ITX system to take with me to PC gaming events/LAN events. I would like this system to be able to play games at at least medium settings @ 1280 x 720 resolution.

These are the parts that I've chosen so far for my budget mini-ITX system:

Case:
BitFenix Prodigy Midnight Black Edition Mini-ITX Case

Motherboard:
MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Socket FM2 AMD A75 Motherboard

Processor + Graphics Card:
AMD A10-6800K Quad-Core APU @ 4.1GHz w/ AMD Radeon HD 8670D IGP - Price Unknown

Memory:
At least 4GB of DDR3 1600MHz RAM or faster.

Power Supply:
Seasonic SS-500ET 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Power Supply

Hard Drive:
Already own a spare hard drive.

Accessories:
Already own two 120mm fans, one 80mm fan, and an aftermarket CPU cooler.

Do you guys think that the A10-6800K w/ HD 8670D IGP will be able to play games at medium settings at 1280 x 720?

Is there a better combination of parts that I could use for better performance that will cost me the same, if not less?

I've read that the AMD A10-5800K's IGP is about as powerful as an NVIDIA GT 640 dedicated GPU or a Radeon HD 5570 dedicated GPU. Is this true?
   
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apu's are great but you have to overclock them so i would recommend something like an h80i or an h100i. also, ram speed is incredibly important in giving you more fps so i would get as fast as you can
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What discrete GPU can you use to Xfire the 6800k?
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post #4 of 7
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@DizZz
Yes, liquid cooling would definitely be the best cooling option in terms of temperatures, but it's expensive, and I'm not that big of a fan of having liquid running in my system, so that wouldn't work for me, but thanks smile.gif I plan on getting the most and the fastest possible RAM I can get that's cheap (under $40 CAD after taxes.)

@bdenpaka
To my knowledge, AMD hasn't announced what will be Hybrid-CrossFire compatible with the A10-6800K's IGP. Apparently the new line of APU's are supposed to be coming out in March of this year, so... I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I'm just really really hoping that the A10-6800K will at least surpass the Phenom II X4 965 BE in overall performance by a bit, if not by a lot, especially if the processor is going to cost more (it'll most likely be between $140-$160 CAD, since right now the A10-5800K is $130 CAD.) I'm actually hoping that the A10-6800K will cost less, but that probably won't happen, considering it'll be the top A-Series APU.
   
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I'm actually thinking about swapping out the BenFenix case for another case, the Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced mini-ITX case. The Cooler Master case is cheaper by $20+, and it can still fit a full-size card, full-size power supply, and it's still an incredibly small case, so it's still easy for me to bring it to events and such, which is what I want to do with it.
   
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by the time the a10-6800K comes out, the ASRock board should drop down to the american price on newegg.ca, which I would suggest if/when the price drops
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Lol apu's don't need h80/100's. A cheap quality cooler like the 212 and spend the money on good ram, that's where your big gains are over stock. 2133 or more if you want to get the igpu clocked high and working good.
Should be a gigabyte itx mobo out soon too. Msi one didn't allow overclocking iirc, asrock one was having vrm/mem clocking issues early on and I do not know if fixed.
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