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You are one really ignorant man.
We aren't even talking price and there you are inviting nonsense. Piledriver is actually SLOWER than PII really.
New doesn't equate better. I mean LOOK bloody hell, Piledriver is SLOWER per CORE! Even at stock speeds.
The only way a 8350 can eat a Q9550 for lunch is power consumption and i mean it. It ACTUALLY is more power hungry at 5.2GHz than a Q9550 is at 4.2GHz
Heck i'll even take my benching Xeon L5520 against a 8350 which i got for 60$
8 cores doesn't mean better. I mean it's just ... *facepalm* again
Okay let me look at the benchmarks again
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=50
The results is laughable. It look AMD 3 years to catch up just to Intel Q9550?

First off the results are pointless to look at as of course a stock q9550 is gonna lose running at a 2.8ghz, A q9550 @ 4ghz on the other hand is something quite different.
A Q9550 @ 4ghz is about par with a deneb Phenom II X4 @ 4.2ghz, pre core that is. Now the Fx8350 while each core clock for clock is slightly slower then phenom II and needs a good 4.6-4.8ghz to match a 4.2ghz deneb. The thing about the FX series is that for each module you get two cores, now think of a module as the Same thing as a Intel core. Really with a single module your getting more multitreading performance then you would from a single phenom II core or Intel Core.

If your only gonna compare single thread power then yes AMD hasn't really done much in that regards. But The Multithreading performance of the fx8350 is a good deal higher then what the old x6 phenom II's were capable of, And really your comparing a 6 core AMD chip to a 4 module chip. So in my eyes AMD can do more with a module then they could with a single Phenom II core.

Depending on the Task AMD chips do vary well and with the future becoming more multithreading friendly I can atleast say that current FX chips have a brighter future then what the pentium 4 had.

In no way a Q9550 @4ghz is faster then a FX8350 @ 4.8ghz, but some aspects of the upgrade such as single thread performance really isnt going to change much. But getting rid of the old FSB and the ancient chipsets that have the memory controller on the NB, the lga775 design is quite old and if anything is one of the bottlenecks for that q9550.
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And that was one of the main improvements in nehalem!
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If your only gonna compare single thread power then yes AMD hasn't really done much in that regards. But The Multithreading performance of the fx8350 is a good deal higher then what the old x6 phenom II's were capable of..

Really? I've seen reviews and results that show even Phenom 2 beats FX in pure multi-threaded loads.
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Really? I've seen reviews and results that show even Phenom 2 beats FX in pure multi-threaded loads.

thumb.gif you crack me up
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Really? I've seen reviews and results that show even Phenom 2 beats FX in pure multi-threaded loads.

actually the new piledriver chips finally beat out the denebs by about 10-15%
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=698

Now the FX-8350 is not a chip i would recommend to anyone. However the FX-8320 can be found on sale for $155 which makes it a great budget chip

OP as far as Ive seen this is about how the current processors stack up in terms of what type of computer your building

-FX 8320 - for budget rigs where the extra $50 can be thrown at the gpu for better gaming

-core i5 - Nice all around chip for mid range rigs

-core i7s- High end builds
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TO start off, I am a convert from AMD to Intel as of December 2012. used AMD ever since pre dual-core days and switched from the FX6300 to the 3570k with asrock extreme4...and before, I was about as close to AMD for life as one can get...and let me tell you...the 3570K is amazing. in many gaming benchmarks, it actually beats the i7 3770k. and if you can get it with a bundle deal and get some money knocked off your mobo...i can promise you that you will be 100% satisfied and then some. i got mine for 169.99 and $40 bundle deal on my mobo so, basically the same price i paid for my 6300 and the mobo i had with it...and fx6300 = roughly 33GFlops @ 4.6ghz ... 3570k = roughly 120GFlops @ 4.6ghz. :/ speeeeddd!!!
 
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Precise answer. Try to split up your posts though, it's quite hard to read
And yes we all know the 3570k will kill the FX6300 many times over clock for clock biggrin.gif But it's also pricier but less power consumption anyway
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Well the i3 Server CPU is an option, but i would like more then 4 cores. Also the Multi is a good way to OC.

Well short of me getting another 580 or a 680 for under $300, i might as well keep my 580 and get a 3570/3770K and OC for days. But if a 8350/8320 is better then a Q9550 core 4 core, that would be an upgrade. Should i just get a 6300 then? True 6 core? Or heck even a 1100T?

8350
VS < That's my 2 choices.
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E3 NOT i3 It's a Quad core XEON processor in case you didn't see it or missed it
And yeah, 6300 is a true hex core processor unlike some people think
But a 3570k is a better bet than a 8350 at the same price

To be fair, the 3550 is a rival to the E3-1230 V2 and it's about 30$ more which isn't near as cheap as the i5
More cache does give it a bit more advantage and it does show and it's got hyperthreading so yeah, it's just as fast as the i7-3820 is at 3.6GHz
Oddly the Xeon E3-1270V2 is a bit faster than i7-3770k clock for clock, somehow shows Xeon parts are always slightly ahead of desktop parts

I don't know why but back in nehalem Gainestown is faster than Bloomfield
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Intel 530 240GB Deepcool Captain 240 Arctic Cooling Bionix 140 Delta AFB1212L 
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Windows 10 Pro CoolerMaster G750M NZXT Switch 810 
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