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post #11 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by di inferi View Post

1) Don't pre-order. ANYTHING.

2) "Demo" the game.

3) Read/watch reviews.

4) THEN buy it.
Double-edged sword. Good preorder numbers can get DLC green lit months before launch so that it can be released relatively close to launch, but poor preorder numbers will stall out DLC getting green lit and if the DLC isn't quick to make, most games won't get DLC after 4-6 months. Before the inevitable outrage over DLC, I'm talking about content made because the game did well that wouldn't have been funded otherwise.

I almost preordered A:CM, reason I didn't was partly because I hadn't seen enough of the game. The last demo I can think of that didn't match the game went even further than the differences here, it was an entire level that was not included in the final game and the developers even said what they showed off ended up not being possible to play on a consumer console. Yet, that game sold over 8 million copies. That game was Halo 2.

Preorder if you want to support the developers, but if the game is launching in 24-48 hours and there isn't a single media review, seriously consider cancelling that preorder.
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post #12 of 39
He probably wasn't lying and just didn't know about the changes, sadly. There is no denying that the game looks completely different from demo - Randy stated that they were trying to implement this 'cool new lighting effect' called deferred lighting. The programmers probably had it running on the 360 but either struggled with the PS3 version or found the performance to be sub par (which should have run well if the vertex processing was off-loaded on to the SPE's in theory).

Something happened there - Sega or Borderlands 2 stifled dev time. Can't solidly tell if the game is running deferred shading but they probably reverted across all platforms for convenience sake and this is what we are left with. Lack of DX10/11 is quite poor and with all of the time that this game had been given and the way that DX10 features can be trivial to implement, it's hard to retain faith in GB.
Edited by pengs - 2/16/13 at 11:00am
post #13 of 39
I honestly didn't know Gearbox was doing the game, I am not sure how I missed it, but I did. Then when all the stink came up about the game I looked into it and when I seen "Gearbox Software" flash at the start of the game and demos, I was a bit floored.

I thought Gearbox was above this sort of thing, the quality of the game isn't Gearbox quality. I am saying that aside from the whole demo to release fiasco, just the overall quality isn't something I thought Gearbox would allow out to the fans. Then add on top of it the whole deal with the demo versus release, "What the hell Randy!?".
    
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post #14 of 39
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

Well, from a liability perspective he couldn't say anything. If he stood up and bashed the game that his company was making before release, he would have been dunked by the company financially. Anyone that backed the project would have ripped the clothing off his back.

Pretty much this. If he admits the game sucks and they did a crap job on it, SEGA could go after them with a vengeance.
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post #15 of 39
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I was tweaking the graphics in the .ini files earlier and I noticed that there were no "Modern" cards in the list.

(Big list, Ignore the ATI HD 5800 I edited that in myself.)

Essentially the game would detect your card and assign a graphics setting ( From 1 to 5 ) based on how good the card was.
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So this game is on Unreal Engine 3, right? Ya know its funny...looking at that list of cards sure does bring me right to the time frame when UT3 released or when the engine was first used. That list of cards is what would have been available at the time. What's even sadder, is the graphics in Aliens Colonial Marines wouldn't have been impressive even 6 years ago compared to UT3, Crysis, etc.
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He gave a keynote speech at the D.I.C.E. summit 2013 a week ago. Funnily enough it was about promises, expectations, credibility and trust.

Link to video
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classic quantity over quality, there is no way in hell any of those cards listed could play that game in the demo with any settings. appealing to the low end crowd and then lying about it, ha what an idiot.
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classic quantity over quality, there is no way in hell any of those cards listed could play that game in the demo with any settings. appealing to the low end crowd and then lying about it, ha what an idiot.
TBH if the rumours are true that gearbox only did 50% of the game, what pitchford said might not have been a lie; but rather only knowing what gearbox did. Apparently the only reason timegate and them were brought onto the project by Sega.
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1) Don't pre-order. ANYTHING.

2) "Demo" the game.

3) Read/watch reviews.

4) THEN buy it.

Best advice about video games. Rep you sir.

I learned that lesson with pre-ordering Crysis 2.
6 month delay, No DX11 at launch, released a console game
(not designed to be played with keyboard/mouse but xbox controller),
no online play because of hackers.
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I honestly didn't know Gearbox was doing the game, I am not sure how I missed it, but I did. Then when all the stink came up about the game I looked into it and when I seen "Gearbox Software" flash at the start of the game and demos, I was a bit floored.

I thought Gearbox was above this sort of thing, the quality of the game isn't Gearbox quality. I am saying that aside from the whole demo to release fiasco, just the overall quality isn't something I thought Gearbox would allow out to the fans. Then add on top of it the whole deal with the demo versus release, "What the hell Randy!?".

What is gearbox quality? ACM? Duke Nukem Forever? The tons of crap pc ports? Let me guess your going by borderlands?

I honestly hope SEGA sues the crap out of Gearbox, too many good SEGA games liek COH 2 and RTW 2 coming out this year to be brought down by this lying turd.
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