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http://www.overclock.co.uk/product.p...t=440&view=rel

Im looking at this. Says its for Xeons, but surely you can just get a different bracket to mount it to the mobo? Or failing that just get a new waterblock?
    
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See if you can find a kit like this over there
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See if you can find a kit like this over there
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Yeah for a kit it's the best...It's not so much a kit as a group of high-end parts....
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Two pumps in parallel are pretty much the same as buying an inappropriate aquarium pump for water-cooling. The GPH rating will be huge, but the ability to push water is the same for both pumps as it is for one pump. Science and experience both show that you only get a tiny increase in flow, but more pump heat in the water.

If you want to increase flow, having pumps in series is the way to do it. However, the gain is small. You don’t double your flow. Typically, the gain is about 33%, depending on the pump. Again, you add more pump heat to the water. The best cooling solution is always to get a pump suited to the task.

As for rads in series or parallel, the MOST important thing is to have water traveling through the rad at 1.5 – 2.0 GPM. When you put rads in parallel, the flow rate through each drops...not by half, but nearly so. So, if the flow through your parallel rads were 1.5 GPM or more then I would say go with parallel. Otherwise, series is better.

The typical water-cooling pump has a hard time reaching 2 GPM through a loop. That is one reason why radiators have become longer instead of wider.

What’s so important about 1.5 – 2.0 GPM? According to flow calculations, I believe that this is the rate where the water flow becomes fully turbulent. At lower flow rates the flow is smoother, and smoother flow doesn’t cool as well. Of course, I’m talking about the radiator only. Each component in the system reacts differently to flow.
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This?> http://www.overclock.co.uk/product.p...t=440&view=rel
    
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Two pumps in parallel are pretty much the same as buying an inappropriate aquarium pump for water-cooling. The GPH rating will be huge, but the ability to push water is the same for both pumps as it is for one pump. Science and experience both show that you only get a tiny increase in flow, but more pump heat in the water.

If you want to increase flow, having pumps in series is the way to do it. However, the gain is small. You don’t double your flow. Typically, the gain is about 33%, depending on the pump. Again, you add more pump heat to the water. The best cooling solution is always to get a pump suited to the task.

As for rads in series or parallel, the MOST important thing is to have water traveling through the rad at 1.5 – 2.0 GPM. When you put rads in parallel, the flow rate through each drops...not by half, but nearly so. So, if the flow through your parallel rads were 1.5 GPM or more then I would say go with parallel. Otherwise, series is better.

The typical water-cooling pump has a hard time reaching 2 GPM through a loop. That is one reason why radiators have become longer instead of wider.

What’s so important about 1.5 – 2.0 GPM? According to flow calculations, I believe that this is the rate where the water flow becomes fully turbulent. At lower flow rates the flow is smoother, and smoother flow doesn’t cool as well. Of course, I’m talking about the radiator only. Each component in the system reacts differently to flow.
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Two pumps in parallel are pretty much the same as buying an inappropriate aquarium pump for water-cooling. The GPH rating will be huge, but the ability to push water is the same for both pumps as it is for one pump. Science and experience both show that you only get a tiny increase in flow, but more pump heat in the water.

If you want to increase flow, having pumps in series is the way to do it. However, the gain is small. You don’t double your flow. Typically, the gain is about 33%, depending on the pump. Again, you add more pump heat to the water. The best cooling solution is always to get a pump suited to the task.

As for rads in series or parallel, the MOST important thing is to have water traveling through the rad at 1.5 – 2.0 GPM. When you put rads in parallel, the flow rate through each drops...not by half, but nearly so. So, if the flow through your parallel rads were 1.5 GPM or more then I would say go with parallel. Otherwise, series is better.

The typical water-cooling pump has a hard time reaching 2 GPM through a loop. That is one reason why radiators have become longer instead of wider.

What’s so important about 1.5 – 2.0 GPM? According to flow calculations, I believe that this is the rate where the water flow becomes fully turbulent. At lower flow rates the flow is smoother, and smoother flow doesn’t cool as well. Of course, I’m talking about the radiator only. Each component in the system reacts differently to flow.
So have you studied mechanical engineering or something similar? This is all very interesting for me as I'm studying mechanical engineering at University just now.
    
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Yup that looks like it, Its a little more money, but you can upgrade it alot if you want (don't need to) and its based off quality parts. Which IMO is a sold right there.
    
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Yup that looks like it, Its a little more money, but you can upgrade it alot if you want (don't need to) and its based off quality parts. Which IMO is a sold right there.
Hrm. Im a little dubious. £200 compared to a kit just for CPU for £100? I know that the £200 kit has block for NB and GPU, but Im not sure I need that...
    
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Hrm. Im a little dubious. £200 compared to a kit just for CPU for £100? I know that the £200 kit has block for NB and GPU, but Im not sure I need that...
Thats the Ultra + kit thats why, look for just the Ultra kit no '+', the thing is, that has a GOOD pump a GOOD rad, a GOOD cpu block. etc. its a more, but its better.
    
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