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Quiet and ergonomic mechanical keyboard - does such a beast exist?

You might want to consider a keyboard that uses Matias quiet click switches (replicas of the Alps switch). I own a KBP V60 Mini (with the aforementioned switches) and it is by far the quietest "mechanical" keyboard I've ever used. I'm not entirely convinced by the use of o-rings, but that's something else you might want explore.
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there is no difference in spacing between the keyboards, the spacing is a set standard.

as far as WPM, you probably won't see much if any of an improvement.

Are you sure? When i look close at images of the 2 there definitely looks to be more room between the keys on the k95. Maybe just the base of the keys are wider on the g710?

Because my current kb has issues with keys getting stuck on edges if not depressed perfectly downwards. Or perhaps because the keys on the k95 are on a sort of flat board instead of inside the kb if that makes sense, so no walls to rub up against.

In addition any other thoughts between the 2 boards? Maybe someone who has used both? I want to know if any practical reasons such as i spoke about (smoothness of usage, no contacting edges like my current kb does adding friction) or anything else to go for the k95.
    
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the key spacing is a set standard. ( though the key layout isn't and both keyboards don't follow the key sizing standard, so replacement keycap sets will be very limited )

Both keyboards are kinda crap really, there are much better options out there for your money if you want a quality built item, but you seem to be leaning towards the "add as many features and marketing items as possible" genre of boards so I can't really help you out too much if thats what you want.
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It's not about marketing....but it is about features. I like complex things, the more functions the better. The volume and mute buttons are big conveniences and the macro buttons are major conveniences for my MMOs.

If you can convince me what makes their quality crap in a practical way (something that lasts a life time instead of 10 years isnt a factor imo) then it could be worth it to buy one of those separate macro devices. But thats just another item and wire on my desk so id prefer not to (and my computer is 7 feet from my desk, wires are a nuisance).

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You might want to consider a keyboard that uses Matias quiet click switches (replicas of the Alps switch). I own a KBP V60 Mini (with the aforementioned switches) and it is by far the quietest "mechanical" keyboard I've ever used. I'm not entirely convinced by the use of o-rings, but that's something else you might want explore.

Thanks Vigil! Have you used the Cherry MX Reds with o-rings to compare how loud the sound is? I'm looking here not to disturb my soon-to-be wife while I game next to our bed (long story, 3000^2' house but this is where the rig is) while she's sleeping ... biggrin.gif
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Thanks Vigil! Have you used the Cherry MX Reds with o-rings to compare how loud the sound is? I'm looking here not to disturb my soon-to-be wife while I game next to our bed (long story, 3000^2' house but this is where the rig is) while she's sleeping ... biggrin.gif

Next to the bed you say? I'm not sure such a keyboard exists sadly. I should add, certain Topre keyboards are likely even quieter (something like the Realforce 87U Silent) but you won't see one on sale for $100 anytime soon. The Matias quiet click switches sound similar to run-of-the-mill rubber dome switches, i.e., a lot quieter than most Cherry MX switches but not silent. I don't have the means to compare them with Cherry MX switches with o-rings, but from what I remember, o-rings definitely reduce the amount of sound that is made. You also have a lot more replacement keycaps available to you if you stick with Cherry MX; something else to consider if that's important to you. I just don't like the "feel" after o-rings have been added.
Edited by Vigil - 9/22/15 at 8:34am
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Next to the bed you say? I'm not sure such a keyboard exists sadly. I should add, certain Topre keyboards are likely even quieter (something like the Realforce 87U Silent) but you won't see one on sale for $100 anytime soon. The Matias quiet click switches sound similar to run-of-the-mill rubber dome switches, i.e., a lot quieter than most Cherry MX switches but not silent. I don't have the means to compare them with Cherry MX switches with o-rings, but from what I remember, o-rings definitely reduce the amount of sound that is made. You also have a lot more replacement keycaps available to you if you stick with Cherry MX; something else to consider if that's important to you. I just don't like the "feel" after o-rings have been added.

Thanks Vigil

Any thoughts on the Logitec G710+? It has Cherry MX Browns with o-rings to try and quiet them down

The unit is flashier than I need but the price is right smile.gif

Edit: Okay when looking at these two Matias:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=231
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=211

What in the world makes them specific to either Windows or Linux? It says the regular black one isn't compatible with linux. I use cheap wired logitec USB keyboards on both windows and linux machines all the time - why would these have limited compatibility?

So it looks like I have the following options:
Topre 45/Heaven ($149):
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=522
Matias Quiet Pro ($127):
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=231
Cooler Master Storm QuickFire XT / Cherry Red ($108 + orings)
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=567
Logitec G710+ / Cherry Brown w/ orings ($99.44)
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Mechanical-Keyboard-Tactile-High-Speed/dp/B009C98NPY

I would appreciate any input as to which of those options is the most quiet! Thanks in advance
Edited by Archea47 - 9/22/15 at 12:35pm
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i need to make my k70 browns to be very quiet when typing and i see these guys making o-rings :
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/cherry-mx-rubber-o-ring-switch-dampeners-125pcs.html
but not sure which type i should get 0.2mm or 0.4mm or there are better ones ?
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No problem. Re your suggestions, remember that the Topre keyboard I referenced was a "silent" version, not the regular kind (like the one in your link) which are typically a little louder; the "silent" kind would be ideal for you because they're likely the quietest mechanical keyboards around, but they aren't cheap. You might find this video useful (see the description for which keyboards were used). Unfortunately, the only keyboard that used o-rings in the video had Cherry MX blue switches (you'd be more interested in reds or browns I suspect). As for the difference between the two Matias keyboards you sent links to, I don't think the entire keyboard won't work on one OS and not another, just certain keys (as implied here).
Edited by Vigil - 9/22/15 at 7:57pm
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Thanks Vigil! +rep

I wrote mechanical keyboards and their GM said Reds or Blacks with o-rings are the most quiet options, with many people returning the Matias because it's not as quiet as expected.

Thoughts on black vs red Cherry MX (with orings)?
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