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And you are all forgetting about possibilities of data corruption the more you overclock. He is a software engineer. He can't afford to have that happen.

I see no possiblity. Learn to overclock and you wont have data corruption.
     
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And you are all forgetting about possibilities of data corruption the more you overclock. He is a software engineer. He can't afford to have that happen.

Data corruption is sparse and unproven, AFAIK.
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you know what doods and doodetes? I'm gonna say "F THIS" and just get this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/E8Nt

No seriously, I want a quiet pc and I don't want to OC and I don't want water cooling. I want a silence and POWER!

Furthermore if 5% (mentioned above) is what I'm getting by spending $500, and I use my PC every day for work... than I will say this:

220 working days in a year
4 hours a day I use this particular PC for dev stuff
so (4*220) = 880 hours
so 5% of 880 is = 44 hours

so I will only feel that 5% 44 hours out of the 880 hours that I work on this PC.

So if my rate is $100 an hour (theoretically speaking), than (44 hours * $100) that is $4,400 that I'm saving in a year by getting 5%, considering the above facts constant. So whats $500 compared to that?

I understand that the above math is stupid and probably completely unture. But considering the fact that I may be 50% wrong, than I still come out with $2,200 at the end of the year, less $500 for the difference.

So in the end... the Extreme costs me $2200 - $500 = -$1,700 AND I'm charging this to my coroporate account, which means its a business expense, hence reducing the price even more.

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you know what doods and doodetes? I'm gonna say "F THIS" and just get this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/E8Nt

No seriously, I want a quiet pc and I don't want to OC and I don't want water cooling. I want a silence and POWER!

Furthermore if 5% (mentioned above) is what I'm getting by spending $500, and I use my PC every day for work... than I will say this:

220 working days in a year
4 hours a day I use this particular PC for dev stuff
so (4*220) = 880 hours
so 5% of 880 is = 44 hours

so I will only feel that 5% 44 hours out of the 880 hours that I work on this PC.

So if my rate is $100 an hour (theoretically speaking), than (44 hours * $100) that is $4,400 that I'm saving in a year by getting 5%, considering the above facts constant. So whats $500 compared to that?

I understand that the above math is stupid and probably completely unture. But considering the fact that I may be 50% wrong, than I still come out with $2,200 at the end of the year, less $500 for the difference.

So in the end... the Extreme costs me $2200 - $500 = -$1,700 AND I'm charging this to my coroporate account, which means its a business expense, hence reducing the price even more.

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It seems like your going towards the 3970k, but an OCed 3930k will outperform a 3970k.....

OCs wont make your system louder. Just get quiet fans.
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Wow, very interesting. Thanks so much for the replies and the guidance.
x8x, great site, I wish I knew about it before. So I have some question in regards to this build:

  1. I dislike both AMD and ATI. I used to like ATI, but I like that Intel and Nvidia are both American companies and so I'd prefer to buy Nvidia. That being said, what would be a competing Nvidia card?
  2. As for the processor, you elected to not pick the highest one, understandable since you get diminishing returns at some price points, however you are loosing 3MB of CACHE memory which to me "seems" important as that will be your fastest memory swapps, followed by RAM
  3. I may have overstated the VM issue. I maybe run two at a time a maximum, it would be extremely rare to run three or more. Would this mean that the 32GB of RAM is slightly overkill?
  4. Over the last couple of years, I've noticed Samsung decrease quality in a lot of their products (both cell phone and dvd player I had), and maybe this is just me, but judging the fact that their price level is far lower than any of the competitors, would it make more sense to spend an additional $200 for quality?

I use my computer mostly for work stuff, so it will pay itself off on the first project I use it on, so I'm not afraid to shell out an additional $500 if I need to.

 

1.) And so is AMD...

 

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2.) 3MB of cache and the 0.3 MHz gives you at best 5% better performance.

3.) As for VMs, it doesn't really matter. Faster memory speed is what matters. RAM is very cheap, however.

4.) Samsung SSDs are, for the most part, very highly regarded (especially on this forum). If you don't want Samsung, you can always go Intel, Plextor, or Crucial.

 

Be frugal. That does not mean cheap, just spend the money on things that will give you the most performance for your buck within your budget.

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Get a Xeon E5 then.
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you know what doods and doodetes? I'm gonna say "F THIS" and just get this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/E8Nt

No seriously, I want a quiet pc and I don't want to OC and I don't want water cooling. I want a silence and POWER!

 

Do what adridu59 said then:

 

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Get a Xeon E5 then.

 

 

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so I will only feel that 5% 44 hours out of the 880 hours that I work on this PC.
 

 

VMs don't stress a 3970X to 100% that easily, or a 3930K to 100% for that matter. A faster SSD will allow you to work more quickly than a faster CPU.

 

Also, I'd recommend the Noctua NH-D14 SE2011. Goes well with your motherboard's color scheme and is more quiet (but equally performing) to the Phanteks.

Reference GPUs aren't quiet, as are the ones that you selected. I recommend the Asus GTX 670 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121637) or the MSI GTX 670 Power Edition (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127685).


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And you are all forgetting about possibilities of data corruption the more you overclock. He is a software engineer. He can't afford to have that happen.

Overclocking will not lead to data corruption. Where are you getting that information
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It seems like your going towards the 3970k, but an OCed 3930k will outperform a 3970k.....

OCs wont make your system louder. Just get quiet fans.

I don't like over clocking simply because I like leaving my system on 24/7 and I always have this feet that on a hot day my AC won't turn on or something and over clocked proc will eventually burn my house down. This includes the,thought of my dog burning alive. I know stupid. Realize that we are talking about $500 fir a PC for next 5 - 7 years. Also I just don't feel like putting in all of the time to learn about the proper way to OC. I've done it before and I got a boost from it, but nothing to write,home about. To me, there are more interesting ways to use my time; speaking strictly of myself of course.
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Have you checked out this BigBang X-Power II?
no I have not, is there something in particular that I should be aware of?

as for the proc thing, I'm still leaning towards 3970x, but I am not decided yet. I've noticed here people are leaning either all out gaming and then there is a mention of a Xeon. I want the i7 because I want to do:

90% work, 10% gaming.

I want to make sure that I am running at 100% for work and games can run at 50 - 75% top quality. So I don't want to skimp on proc, ram, had... But I don't mind skimping on video card.
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