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You don't have to take our word on it either. There are plenty of professional reviewers that pretty much say the same, even giving the gold medal (as it were) to the 3930K for best in class which would normally be reserved for the top performer on that socket type, but even they came to the same conclusions after testing them side by side, that the 60X, 70X just aren't worth the added cost. (It's been a while since I've gone through these reviews, having made my decision a while ago now, but that's the gist of it.)

As for Xeon socket 2011, you're talking same threads and lower clock, or 4 more threads lower clock, or same threads stock clock of the 3960X for the same price, or 4 more threads same stock clock of the 3930K but for $2,000. Advantage goes to the Xeons for intense multi-threaded applications and somewhat improved reliability (though honestly, that very likely won't be an issue either way) only (unless maybe you feel like dropping $2,000 on your CPU). For general use (including gaming and multi-threading/crunching) the i7s have the advantage, especially for cost effectiveness, and within that the 3930K is where it's at for doing just about everything very well, while keeping the price reasonable.

Here's the breakdown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_2011

Xeon also supports ECC memory.
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You don't have to take our word on it either. There are plenty of professional reviewers that pretty much say the same, even giving the gold medal (as it were) to the 3930K for best in class which would normally be reserved for the top performer on that socket type, but even they came to the same conclusions after testing them side by side, that the 60X, 70X just aren't worth the added cost. (It's been a while since I've gone through these reviews, having made my decision a while ago now, but that's the gist of it.)

As for Xeon socket 2011, you're talking same threads and lower clock, or 4 more threads lower clock, or same threads stock clock of the 3960X for a slightly higher price, or 4 more threads same stock clock of the 3930K but for $2,000. Advantage goes to the Xeons for intense multi-threaded applications and somewhat improved reliability (though honestly, that very likely won't be an issue either way) only (unless maybe you feel like dropping $2,000 on your CPU). For general use (including gaming and multi-threading/crunching) the i7s have the advantage, especially for cost effectiveness, and within that the 3930K is where it's at for doing just about everything very well, while keeping the price reasonable.

Here's the breakdown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_2011

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Xeon also supports ECC memory.

True. I kind of just glossed that into their "reliability." redface.gif
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You don't have to take our word on it either. There are plenty of professional reviewers that pretty much say the same, even giving the gold medal (as it were) to the 3930K for best in class which would normally be reserved for the top performer on that socket type, but even they came to the same conclusions after testing them side by side, that the 60X, 70X just aren't worth the added cost. (It's been a while since I've gone through these reviews, having made my decision a while ago now, but that's the gist of it.)

As for Xeon socket 2011, you're talking same threads and lower clock, or 4 more threads lower clock, or same threads stock clock of the 3960X for a slightly higher price, or 4 more threads same stock clock of the 3930K but for $2,000. Advantage goes to the Xeons for intense multi-threaded applications and somewhat improved reliability (though honestly, that very likely won't be an issue either way) only (unless maybe you feel like dropping $2,000 on your CPU). For general use (including gaming and multi-threading/crunching) the i7s have the advantage, especially for cost effectiveness, and within that the 3930K is where it's at for doing just about everything very well, while keeping the price reasonable.

Here's the breakdown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_2011

this was my thinking of xeons as well which is why I stayed away from them.

so if I over clock the 3930k, will the components select suffice? Can I still keep a silent fan?
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this was my thinking of xeons as well which is why I stayed away from them.

so if I over clock the 3930k, will the components select suffice? Can I still keep a silent fan?

Yes you can, the PH-TC14PE cools a overclocked SB-E chip like 3930K/3960X adequatedly at 4.6Ghz @ 1.4V, Temp shown below are Delta over Ambient so add a Ambient temperature to get the actual temperature.



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A Noctua NH-D14 will be so quiet you won't notice it at all. Others here can probably recommend other top quality air coolers currently on the market, I use only watercooling so I've kind of lost touch with what's good.
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this was my thinking of xeons as well which is why I stayed away from them.

so if I over clock the 3930k, will the components select suffice? Can I still keep a silent fan?

For starters, you should overclock the 3930K at least a little (how much depends on the temps, stability, and VCore), or you'll be wasting its performance potential. 4.2GHz (dynamic high or static) is kind of the minimum low end starting level to aim for.

The cooler I use is kind of a middle range air cooler and works fine for me pushing the 3930K up to 4.6GHz. It's also very quite, but I switched out the fans that came with it to 2 4-pin PWM 120mm fans which change their RPMs based on the CPU's temps on a curve I set up for them to use.
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Wow, great input thanks. Is there a guide for over clocking with this motherboard? Is there a better board for over clocking?
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Wow, great input thanks. Is there a guide for over clocking with this motherboard? Is there a better board for over clocking?

ASUS has an easy overclocking utility. If you are going for a simple OC, I think there's like a button you press in the program which overclocks to 4.2GHz automatically for you.
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A Noctua NH-D14 will be so quiet you won't notice it at all. Others here can probably recommend other top quality air coolers currently on the market, I use only watercooling so I've kind of lost touch with what's good.
about the Noctua, thats what you think wink.gif
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/3960/33-cpu-cooler-group-test-cool-quiet-and-both
there are more quiet air coolers then a Noctua NH-D14

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