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I'm trying to plan out my upgrade...

Really just wish I could find a PCIe mobo that would take my processor but have yet to find one for sale (I know there are 2 or 3 out there)

I'm looking at going with the Biostar Tforce 6100 939 for the mobo
Gonna keep my memory, drives, PSU
sell off my 6800 gt and get a 1950pro


But I can't make up my mind on the processor to get

I'll get to the final point: should I go with a dual core lower clock or a single core higher clock.

Any advice would be appriciated, and cost IS an issue.
*read on if you wish*

I know about the steppings for the opt's and which ones to try and get for OC'ing. I might get a 170 due to the 10x multiplier but may get the 165 due to better potential from stock and as it seems I can find good steppings for sale more often. But single core FX's with unlocked multipliers are just as available (and should allow easier OC'ing). I should be able to grab a fx55 oc it to around 3ghz or I could get a 165 oc it to around 2.2+ depending on memory and processor OC'ing abilities (not sure about my ram). I haven't played around with AMD since socket A so I don't know about playing with memory dividers but may be able to throw out memory as being an OC limit if those can be adjusted.

I've read a few discussions and most say go with opty but I'm not sure if those are just fanboys hating on the FX series.

Any advice would be appriciated, and cost IS an issue.
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dual core FTW, you can always OC my man.
    
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well, i dont have a dual core or amd processor, but seems to me that the dual core can tkae more apps at the same time, while the single core can only take one or two with some lag, might end up to be the same performance. you could allwys overclock the daul core

but in my opinion id get dual core

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What is your budget? And I assume you stick with socket 939 since you don't (can't) invest in new RAM. I'd definately go with the Opteron 165, since it's a good overclocker and dual core is simply the way to go right now. Even a dud 165 should give you over 2.5GHz... so that won't be too bad of a performance.

Regarding the motherboard, the Biostar is nice, but it's mATX (with onboard video). This does have some limitations, although this specific one is not a bad overclocker. This ASUS A8N-E Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra costs $76.99 and is a pretty good overclocker also.
    
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The board i just installed is a great overclocker aswell. Epox 9NPA3 ULtra , it hits 300mhz FSB very easy. And has loads of voltage/timing options. And it has a very cool de-bugging LED on the motherboard that tells you whats going on when its booting up. Also if you mess somthing up from overclocking, you dont even need to reset the cmos. It will just start right back up normaly, but at stock settings.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813123258
    
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I'm sticking with 939 due to cash flow....hence same ram
I am looking at trying to keep it around 500 or less...
I might be able to get that Tforce for 35 bucks or so but only time will tell but I'll check out that asus
I did a ton of research on mobo's and even given that its mATX it seems to be able to hold its own against some ATX players for OC'ing with "easy" install also
Was gonna check out DFI but read too many things about needing to play with settings alot to get setup for my taste
Most of my installs have been pretty much plug and play all the way around-so maybe I've just been lucky.

And I wasn't worrying about the Opty being a bad Oc but my memory not being able to take 250+ fsb speeds, as I said before I'm new to cpu memory control but I've heard you can change the memory dividers (not sure if that is mobo specific or not...)
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post #7 of 24
With any good overclocking board you can change the memory speed, and thus put it on a divider. Don't worry too much about that.

The tForce is indeed a nice overclocking board, and can hold it's own against several ATX boards. Personally, I prefer the ATX format, since it a bit more spaced out (easier to keep cool), and generally better components.

But with the tForce, and Opteron 165, and the X1950PRO, you have a solid rig!
    
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tforce is a very good bored.
It does have some flaws that I noticed.
1. It gets very hot!
2. Its small
3. Hard to make it look nice

lol other than that its a monster in a little package. You wont be dissapointed, just try to keep it cool!
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tforce is a very good bored.
It does have some flaws that I noticed.
1. It gets very hot!
2. Its small
3. Hard to make it look nice

lol other than that its a monster in a little package. You wont be dissapointed, just try to keep it cool!
What did/have you used to keep this cool (noticed you have it) and did you use it to oc your 165?
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pm'ed you back man!
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