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Yeah, I also read about that, just looked easier for a 1st build, but I do like the 1st option more as well, just seems a bit more difficult to set up.
Thanks for the info on the fittings and tubing as well.
post #12 of 26
It depends on what looks your going for. You can use secure compression fittings for tight loops or use 90/45 degree fittings for straight connections.

Like loot bag says the XSPC dual bay is used by alot of people and suits alot of needs. I think that it could look alot better though, the XSPC kind of spoils it IMHO. The Cosmos II has plenty of space in there so you could happily fit a dual pump top and then either fit a reservoir onto the top of the pump top or locate your nice long red reservoir nearby.

If you look in the other images for this item you can see the steup with additional reservoirs ontop.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10387/ex-pmp-98/EK_525_Mountable_D5_Dual_Loop_Top_-_White_Acetal_-_Laing_D5_Swiftech_MCP650655_EK-D5_Dual_TOP_2-Loop_G14_-_White_Acetal.html?tl=g30c107s1805#blank
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Here is why dual loops will never give you better performance.

Imagine a CPU loop with it's own 120.3 rad and a GPU loop also with it's own 120.3 rad.

So you want to play a game and you crank up your GPU to the max. Your GPU could really benefit from that second 120.3 rad you got in your CPU loop, but it can only use what it has in it's own loop. Meanwhile, on your CPU loop, you have a rad that is doing almost nothing because your CPU is idle during a game.

Same thing if you want to encode a video and crank up your CPU. It could use all the raddage it could get but there is a perfectly good rad sitting in your GPU loop, doing nothing.

You very rarely use both CPU and GPU at the same time, so in a dual loop, you always end up with half the rads being useless.

In a single loop, you get all the rads sharing the load where they are needed.

Also you have to consider the added noise, heat and cost of two pumps. Pumps do inject some heat into your loop. With dual loops, you have two pumps heating up your coolant, two pumps producing noise, and two pumps to buy.

Dual poops will cost you more money for less performance.

Do it for the look, or for the fun of it. But don't go dual hoping to get better coolong, you won't.

If you think your pump can't handle a CPH and GPU loop, get a bigger pump, or get a second pump in your loop.

But with your single CPU and two GPUs, you can absolutely go for the weakest D5 pump as long as you go for parallel GPUs. With GPUs in parallel, you have very little added restriction and no need to get a noisier DDC pump for more power.

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post #14 of 26
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Thanks for the feedback, yeah I noticed it was the full pump, but could not find it in the store.
So i should only use 1 pump, and which is the best one?

Was also told, that i would need a waterblock for the motherboard to consider some serious overclockings and was looking at this part.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16910/ex-blc-1029/EK_ASUS_Rampage_IV_Extreme_Full_Board_Cooling_Block_Kit_-_Acetal_Nickel_CSQ_EK-FB_KIT_RE4_-_AcetalNickel_CSQ.html

I'll start planning the how the loop goes into the case with the info you guys have given me so far.
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yeah. whoops, I was trying to think of where you would want two loops and couldn't remember so said cpu and gpu. although arguably there are rare cases for example if your running a stupidly high overclock and want to do folding it might be better not to throw the heat from folding into the same loop as your cpu (and perhaps primary gameplayby gpu).

a better example of two loops making more sense is when cooling harddrives as if you add the cpu and gpu into the same loops they could actually run hotter than if they were just circled.
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Thanks for the feedback, yeah I noticed it was the full pump, but could not find it in the store.
So i should only use 1 pump, and which is the best one?
You don't NEED the best pump with your setup. If you put your VGA's in parallel, I recommend the Koolance D5 Vario. It's not the strongest, and you don't need the strongest. But it is the quietest, and it's got ajustable speed.
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Was also told, that i would need a waterblock for the motherboard to consider some serious overclockings and was looking at this part.

I don't know who told you that but mobo water cooling is almost never required. Chipset and MOSFET run too cool to warrant WCing. You can do it for looks or for fun, but you will not get better performance from it.
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Ok, thanks for the input again.

This is my shopping cart so far:

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/899/frozencpucart.png

Any suggestions on what to change? I know fans aren't the best but what else can I use that is better and would keep a red and black theme?

Ok, and I understand now about the motherboard block, however the person I'm buying the motherboard and cpu, is already throwing in this block installed on it:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/15075/ex-blc-1066/XSPC_X79_Rampage_IV_Motherboard_Water_Block_Set.html?id=my9NBNGK&mv_pc=908

The final build is going to be:

Asus RIVE
3930k
2 EVGA Titan Hydrocopper
16gb corsair dominator platinum
AX1200(from my current rig)
3 SDDs and 3 HDDs

All with a red and black theme.
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Is it true that you have to worry about corrosion when you combine a silver kill coil and a nickel block?
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Everything looks good to me in that list. XSPC rads are very good. However I much prefer the Alphacool Full Copper line. Their ST30 outperforms those. Check this out.

I see a pump top in your list but no actual pump, in case you thought the top is a pump ...it's not.

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it says w/ swiftech pump installed so he's all good smile.gif thought that too for a sec but then saw the $149 price.
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