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Hello I have some money left over about 80 dollars. I dont know what to spend it on. I was thinking to spend it on water cooling my cpu which is a Phenom II x4 955 overclocked to 4.2GHz. The water cooling choice will also help me in the long run i think because i will be upgrading my cpu next year. What do you guys think should i buy it or wait till next year.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181030. Although I would wait for the next year upgrade and go for this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032

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Alright thank you.
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One more question is it hard to install watercooling?
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Thx again
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All in one coolers are super super easy to install. its basically the same as air except you dont have to fittle with a giant heat sink. I would also look at the nzxt kraken AIO cooler as well..

Btw, what case do you have? Kinda important (or yyou can do an external I guess)
Edited by iMica - 2/17/13 at 5:55pm
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But honestly, I wouldn't buy a closed loop water cooler. the reasons are numerous.
1. They have way more moving parts. This makes them a LOT more likely to break, as they have many more things that can break
2.When they DO break, you are *******. Unlike a normal cooler, there is no metal heatsink left if the moving parts stop moving,which means the CPU doesn't have time to downthrottle properly (and you can guess what that means.)
3. If it fails totally,instead of plastic,the pc is filled with liquid...
4. They are noisier than air cooling systems because the fans work harder due to heatsink being denser
5.You get same cooling performance cheaper by using air cooler such as Noctua D14 or Silver arrow.
Just my opinion though. Imica may confirm or refute my thought...
   
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post #9 of 13
Closed loop water coolers are for people who:

a) don't have either the money or skill to build a custom water loop
b) are willing to pay more than the cost of a good tower cooler for the same or worse performance
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c) think saying "water-cooling" is cool
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grmadness View Post

But honestly, I wouldn't buy a closed loop water cooler. the reasons are numerous.
1. They have way more moving parts. This makes them a LOT more likely to break, as they have many more things that can break
2.When they DO break, you are *******. Unlike a normal cooler, there is no metal heatsink left if the moving parts stop moving,which means the CPU doesn't have time to downthrottle properly (and you can guess what that means.)
3. If it fails totally,instead of plastic,the pc is filled with liquid...
4. They are noisier than air cooling systems because the fans work harder due to heatsink being denser
5.You get same cooling performance cheaper by using air cooler such as Noctua D14 or Silver arrow.
Just my opinion though. Imica may confirm or refute my thought...

I dislike All in one "water coolers" (Even though I have one on my A10 rig) Rather go complete loop anyday. Definetly would look at higher end air coolers instead of AIO if you can get it to fit.

Only thing I worry about when water cooling is what color mayhem dye I should use tongue.gif

"1. They have way more moving parts. This makes them a LOT more likely to break, as they have many more things that can break"

The only moving part is the pump (but I dont even worry about that. If it stops you will just get a BSOD from cpu safe mode)

"3. If it fails totally,instead of plastic,the pc is filled with liquid..."

All in one coolers have a warranty if it breaks and ruins any parts (so I have heard) and if its a custom loop the worse that I have had was a little dripping that I caught right away.

"4. They are noisier than air cooling systems because the fans work harder due to heatsink being denser"

Thicker rad can use lower rpm fans so decrease noise.
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