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Yea fan control on Asus boards is one of the best if not the best. However, it's not limited to ROG boards. P8Z77-V boards still use Fan Expert. Fan Expert is part of AI Suite which is full of bugs last time I checked though.

There is nothing wrong with 3 pins. PWM slows down fan by sending burst of 12v for some time interval (longer the interval, slower fan spins), 3 pin fans are controlled by sending constant 0-12V. As long as you can control one or the other both are fine.

Saying that, there are some fan controllers like this which you can connect to a motherboard's PWM header. This type of fan controllers will control all fans together depending on one of the motherboard's temperature sensors that's is linked to the given fan header.

Then there are this type of fan controllers which have temperature sensors that you'll have to place all over the case. FC Touch has 2 settings. Whatever speed you choose the fan to run (individual for all 6 channels), and 100% as soon as temps go over whatever you set.

Then there are just manual fan controllers that you'll have to adjust by hand.

Some fan controllers like Bitfenix Recon have USB header, so they can be controlled via software.
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Thats pretty interesting dexel. lol I just spent the last 45 minutes watching the newegg video for the MVE... so i think somewhere back in this thread someone said that the extreme had the better vrm,s and mosfet,s?
I might be overkilling my rig for my needs but the point is to not limit myself to a point where my knowledge and needs have surpassed what i purchased in 1 year. I have to admit I have had a computer obsession for many years but only recently have taken the hardware plunge.. And I am not the type to underdo my hobbies so this why I am leaning towards high end boards. I know I said i probably wouldnt need multi card support but who knows down the road...I guess what i am really saying is that i wont be happy with a $100 dollar board..

so how does the Maximus V extreme hold up to say the p8z77 deluxe or the gigabyte ud5h? seemms to me a board thats way beyond my current needs but maybe not in the future.
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I'd say a ud5 would be way more than enough.

i doubt you'd outgrow a ud3 since it'd have all the cpu you can play with given good BIOS as well as a strong power delivery so your clocks won't be limited when compared with higher end boards.

if you want more features, xfire/sli, added chips etc I'd say nah.

In my 2 years all I care about right now are high overclocks, good bios, and relevant features, which are few.
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MVE is still worse than UP5 in VRM department. MVE offers 8 phase PWM vs 4 phase PWM of MVF. It also has different mosfets which are slightly worse I believe. It's better than UD5H, but it's better be for that price difference.

It doesn't worth the premium imho, as doesn't MVF.

If we are talking about MVE, the discussion about UP7 is inevitable. UP7 has 32 phase design quadrupled from 8. It's a total overkill, but at least it's worth the money. VRM alone on that boards probably costs third of the price.

MVE makes sense only in 3 cases.

1. If you need Thunderbolt and 3-way SLI support since there are very few boards that can do both.
2. Extreme LN2/LH overclocking.
3. You desperately need 3-way SLI support and a red board.


So let's break this down. Why would one ever want to do 3 or 4 way SLI? Only if current gen GPUs can't handle your games. That will only happen if you have surround setup of multiple monitors, or 3D gaming.

Otherwise, 3-way or more SLI just waste, and not practical. You are better of with 1 GPU any day. I only get a second GPU down the road to increase performance without buying newer one, and selling the one I have. Or if single GPU video cards can't handle current gen games which happens rarely.
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sweet tthanks for summing that up time to look into the ud7 thumb.gif
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MVE is still worse than UP5 in VRM department. MVE offers 8 phase PWM vs 4 phase PWM of MVF. It also has different mosfets which are slightly worse I believe. It's better than UD5H, but it's better be for that price difference.

It doesn't worth the premium imho, as doesn't MVF.

If we are talking about MVE, the discussion about UP7 is inevitable. UP7 has 32 phase design quadrupled from 8. It's a total overkill, but at least it's worth the money. VRM alone on that boards probably costs third of the price.

MVE makes sense only in 3 cases.

1. If you need Thunderbolt and 3-way SLI support since there are very few boards that can do both.
2. Extreme LN2/LH overclocking.
3. You desperately need 3-way SLI support and a red board.


So let's break this down. Why would one ever want to do 3 or 4 way SLI? Only if current gen GPUs can't handle your games. That will only happen if you have surround setup of multiple monitors, or 3D gaming.

Otherwise, 3-way or more SLI just waste, and not practical. You are better of with 1 GPU any day. I only get a second GPU down the road to increase performance without buying newer one, and selling the one I have. Or if single GPU video cards can't handle current gen games which happens rarely.

Tangent about MVE
Phase count >
But phase quality?
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yeah the up7 is pretty sweet. now that i think of it if i went with the mpower i could afford a 680 lightning to go with it...so whats bad about the mpower? how does it hold up to gigabyte boards?
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MPower can be compared to UD5H. It has analog PWM where UD5H has digital. It doesn't support offset overclocking, but UD5H does. Otherwise, both are well balanced boards. MPower offers WiFi and Bluetooth (unless you buy MPower at MSRP price in which case UD5H-WB costs the same), but UD5H has headphone amp.

I also believe that Mpower has full fan control unlike most Gigabyte boards.
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Tangent about MVE
Phase count >
But phase quality?

I might be wrong, but I'll look into that.

Here is Sin's list. They use different mosfets on MVF compared to the rest Asus boards. All I have to do is to find data sheets... Were are talking about few amperes in any case.

UPDATE: So I calculated that MVF mosfets can do 31.5A at 11W power dissipation. That's 1.5A better than mosfets that are used on MVE and many other Asus boards.
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well it was a long difficult road but you guys have talked me out of the rog lineup all together tongue.gif . after visiting the maximus owners club and reading all the problems they are having I think i get it finally...it sucks though to see such a pretty board being so problematic.. but i just cant get passed the color schemes and legacy ports on the gigabyte lineup so for me i think it,s the mpower. i had been set on this board for the last 2 months to begin with and some comments people made about it not being a beginner board and the bios being hard to understand turned me away but I have come full circle now....
on the bright side this allows me to step up to the gtx 680 lightning within my budget....that is a better card then the 670 FTW right????? biggrin.gif
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The 7970 series is stronger than the 6xx series I believe. And cheaper? rolleyes.gif
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