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I'm not sure what you mean by "OCN management pulls some money out of their fat wallets (they seem to have tons of money for other projects) and dedicate resources", what are we supposed to pay for?

We already host the stats site and are working on getting access credentials from Admin, after that we can work on perfecting the coding and get TC back on track.

The key word is "host", not own.
    
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It is hosted on our servers and Admin has the credentials for the site, which in my eyes means we own the site.

I'm not a server/site guy so if there is something I am missing then please correct me.
Edited by Bitemarks and bloodstains - 5/18/13 at 6:59pm
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Well, it's been a month now since I relaxed the 20+ hour a day requirement. I have told all the Power Rangers that if they want to continue to Fold at all, they are more than welcome to, but it is not a requirement. I did ask that they check in on our thread to see when/if OCN gets their act together.

I am not ready to remove TPR from the Teams or remove any member from our ranks, but as of now, The Power Rangers are a "Social Group".

This is basically what I told the BBB as well. They are not required to fold, however, I know most of them will continue to fold because they believe in the cause... But of course I told them if anything comes up, aka need to ease electricity/clocks or do whatever maintenance, that they can take their time and not worry about it.
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It is hosted on our servers and Admin has the credentials for the site, which in my eyes means we own the site.

I'm not a server/site guy so if there is something I am missing then please correct me.

If you host a party and someone brings a computer and links up to your network, do own that computer? No. OCN needs the code that sks72 used and permission to use the copyright for his code.

http://tc.folding.net/index.php?p=div&div=1

Do you see that circle with a c in it at the bottom of the page?
    
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Whereas I'm upset with the position that we are currently in as well, there is no need to get sarcastic and catty with each other. It wont do any good except for getting people upset. sad-smiley-002.gif
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Whereas I'm upset with the position that we are currently in as well, there is no need to get sarcastic and catty with each other. It wont do any good except for getting people upset. sad-smiley-002.gif

Sorry you took my post the wrong way. I was trying to post the facts, not hurt feelings. redface.gif The OP of this thread will back off.
    
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I'm not trying to discourage interaction and evidence to our issues, just trying to encourage a more friendly manner of doing so... However, me reading your post incorrectly is definitely my mistake then wink.gif
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It is hosted on our servers and Admin has the credentials for the site, which in my eyes means we own the site.

I'm not a server/site guy so if there is something I am missing then please correct me.


Actually that is not the case. Just because you host code doesn't mean you own the rights to it. Both the company I work for as well as my personal sites are hosted by an ISP. We retain all intellectual property rights to our code, web pages, artwork, trade marks, etc. Just because you park your site on Go Daddy or the like doesn't mean that THEY own the code.



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If you host a party and someone brings a computer and links up to your network, do own that computer? No. OCN needs the code that sks72 used and permission to use the copyright for his code.

You are correct.

At the very least, OCN needs to work with someone who is actually here like axipher, and start kicking in resources to them, and hopefully get an arrangement so that if for some crazy reason he vanishes, or God forbid, is hit by a bus and killed, this sort of thing doesn't happen again.

This has been going on for nearly 3 MONTHS now. IF proper resources have been allocated, then it wouldn't be taking this long. My intent isn't about assigning blame, but rather stir the pot so that it actually gets addressed, not ignored.

During that time, I'm guessing that OCN has spent at least $10,000 on other projects (heck, the 3 $2500 "Ultimate Rigs" is $7500 of my "guess" number that OCN has kicked in), aside from carving out some hard drive space on an existing server, what has been done lately? What about the prize money that is normally set aside for Team Competition? Has that money been "converted" (since it obviously hasn't been awarded) into funds that have been spent on hiring a professional programmer (or used to entice one of the OCN volunteers and/or securing rights to that code)? Because the code that OCN is hosting isn't legally owned by them, I am hoping that OCN management is looking into contacting the owner and possibly making an offer to legally purchase the rights to that code, or at the very least, working with someone else to replace it. So ultimately, has OCN contacted sks72? Did they have a prior arrangement with him about "abandoned code"? Are they working with axipher now?

I think these are very relevant questions as to why is it taking over 3 months to get this issue fixed.

Again, I'm not looking to assign blame or anything. I'm just looking for answers. As team captains, we all have people looking to us for the answers, so we come here to the Captains Forum, to ask them and hopefully get answers so we can report back to them and keep people informed and interested.
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 5/19/13 at 3:18am
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We have stats again.  It's no longer automated, but it works.  It's automated, and it works.  Yey!


Edited by anubis1127 - 6/26/13 at 11:08am