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I would love for a little critique and guidance with this overclock. I am looking to break 4ghz but I don't think my cooler can handle it. Currently I can get up to 3780mhz (180x21) and its ALMOST stable. I have a freezer 7 pro in a smilodon raidmax extreme black case. I am looking into air coolers to replace my current one, but the local microcenter only seems to have evo 212s and some others. I need help deciding if it is worth it to upgrade to the 212 evo, or to save for a more beastly cooler or maybe h80i.

Frequency
180x21
3.780 ghz
1440 ram

Voltages
vcore: 1.312
vtt: 1.220
LLC: Enabled
Dram: 1.5
CPU PLL: 1.880

Temperatures
61-65* after about 30-45 minutes of large FFTs, that's usually where I get a hardware failure in prime, if I try anything about 3.8ghz I get about 70 * which as far as I know is beyond what my cpu can handle. It is almost always worker #2 and in the second pass of large ffts.

So yeah I think that's it guys just looking for some advice thumb.gif Thanks!
Edited by LDV617 - 2/18/13 at 1:06am
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If a worker fails you need more vcore (usually). You can up the vcore a few clicks and just not run prime and then you won't need to buy a new cooler. 4GHz is a small gain in percentage from 3.8GHz I know we all want to take it to the max that other people get but honestly unless you are going to throw a water loop at it I would just settle for the 3.8GHz with a slightly higher vcore than you have now.

You won't hit those temps doing anything else so there is no need to run prime95 if your temps can't handle it. Also like you said you are almost stable so a few clicks on the vcore should be fine. If you get a blue screen or a program shuts crashes then you know you need even more vcore. So just up the vcore and go about your business. In my experience internet explorer is sensitive to stability and so is the PLEX media server. You can run 3dmark Firestrike and if it passes then that is another thing that can help you decide if your stable.

As far as a new cooler I would save your money for some sort of water. I prefer custom loops but closed loops are great too.

But you can get this for $30 after a $10 MIR
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How will that cooler compare to this one? http://microcenter.com/product/373900/Hyper_212_EVO_Universal_CPU_Cooler I am fine with throwing 30-50$ towards ensuring the CPU quality/life. I have been trying to get the second worker stable on second loop and am up to 1.325 still failing, but I will bump again. Most of my tasks are not that cpu intensive, I do music production so they ARE intensive, but are comfortable at ~3.00ghz. I am overclocking further strictly for planetside2 and future proofing this as a gaming PC before I build a new studio rig.
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I don't think the 212 could hold a match to a water cooling unit. I posted that unit because it was around the same price as a 212.

Again though as for the difference between 3.8 and 4.0 that isn't going to be a substantial gain.
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Another thing you can do is reseat your heatsink and reapply thermal paste to make sure that you are evenly distributed. This may help with your overheating problems.

I've heard negative things about that particular cooler. The Kraken X40 or the H80 would be a more worthwhile purchase. See if you can find a comparison chart between the two. I really dont think that that particular closed loop system is that much better than the 212 evo. (I would but my internet is miserably slow in this particular classroom.)
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Another thing you can do is reseat your heatsink and reapply thermal paste to make sure that you are evenly distributed. This may help with your overheating problems.

I've heard negative things about that particular cooler. The Kraken X40 or the H80 would be a more worthwhile purchase. See if you can find a comparison chart between the two. I really dont think that that particular closed loop system is that much better than the 212 evo. (I would but my internet is miserably slow in this particular classroom.)

It looks like Bonkers is correct. I apologize for recommending such a low performer. I didn't expect it to be the best at that price but according to the reviews it has miserable performance.

This has much more favorable reviews
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Ok it looks like I will invest in a closed loop then. I know the performance difference is minimal between 3.8 and 4.0 but every time I bump up my overclock in the slightest I see a direct improvement in planetside's cpu bottleneck. I was hoping with an upgraded cooler I get manage to 4(minimum), and maybe with that water cooler -4.3 or 4.5ghz- which I will deffinitely see an improvement from. Do you guys think my current temps are too high? (again they get as high as 70* in long, large FFT tests)
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Another thing you can do is reseat your heatsink and reapply thermal paste to make sure that you are evenly distributed. This may help with your overheating problems.

Will reseating and replacing thermal paste make a noticeable difference? I've had the PC for years and have never replaced the heatsink or thermal paste.
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Another thing you can do is reseat your heatsink and reapply thermal paste to make sure that you are evenly distributed. This may help with your overheating problems.

Will reseating and replacing thermal paste make a noticeable difference? I've had the PC for years and have never replaced the heatsink or thermal paste.

It may or may not help. I would just wait till you get the new cooler. If you want to go all out buy an indigo extreme kit or if not that then get MX-2 TIM.

if you want to go all out you can get an entire water cooling kit from xspc for $109.99 for a single rad, cpu block, and pump res tubing hose clamps and all the accessories. Or for $144.99 you can get a double rad and a much higher flow 750 pump/res. The coupon code OCN gets you 5.1% off as well. Just mentioning this because with that second cooler you are getting closer to an the price of an entry level cooling kit.
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Ok I think I am just going to look into getting a closed loop cpu cooler for the time being. I am planning on a new rig within a year or two and just want to future proof this one as best I can before moving on. Me and my brother have basically the same setup and I will be getting him a cooler to OC as will, so I am looking for the most cost effective I can get. His chip seems to run stable at much lower voltages than mine though.
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