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post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

The previous negative acceleration issue you're referring to has been corrected. At least when referring to newer variations of mice. (Eg: Sensei.. etc..) While surfacing is important, I'm positive many newer mice using these sensors will do exceptionally well on a black SS Qck.

And I personally disagree with "not being able to get used to it". While I don't discredit the issue, it isn't severe enough to deem unusable. From a market standpoint, the specific 9500 and 9800 models cover a larger audience, offer an ample DPI range that is select-able in steps of 50/90/100/200, and technically process imaging at a superior framerate. (Could translate to a different "feel", though this is the case with multiple architectures be it laser or optical.)

Of course it's also very understandable that you as well as others want linear performance. The issue these days is more or less a combination of pricing, outdated, but updated sensor tech (eg. A3090), and a very limited choice from a R&D aspect.

Competition is needed, but isn't profitable enough to exist.


Is not that I'm questioning you but do you have any non marketing test with proof that newer 9500/9800 mice haven't got acceleration?
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by aikYu View Post

Is not that I'm questioning you but do you have any non marketing test with proof that newer 9500/9800 mice haven't got acceleration?

mh, didn't understand his post that way.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

The previous negative acceleration issue you're referring to has been corrected. At least when referring to newer variations of mice. (Eg: Sensei.. etc..) While surfacing is important, I'm positive many newer mice using these sensors will do exceptionally well on a black SS Qck.

And I personally disagree with "not being able to get used to it". While I don't discredit the issue, it isn't severe enough to deem unusable. From a market standpoint, the specific 9500 and 9800 models cover a larger audience, offer an ample DPI range that is select-able in steps of 50/90/100/200, and technically process imaging at a superior framerate. (Could translate to a different "feel", though this is the case with multiple architectures be it laser or optical.)

Of course it's also very understandable that you as well as others want linear performance. The issue these days is more or less a combination of pricing, outdated, but updated sensor tech (eg. A3090), and a very limited choice from a R&D aspect.

Competition is needed, but isn't profitable enough to exist.

I was unaware that the issue had been solved. What I said was only from my own experience. Good thing that you pointed it out. It would be even more useful if we had some idea of which mice use an updated version of the 9500 and which mice still have the same issue that I experienced, for example on the Logitech G500. Because the issue I experienced was quite severe, I remain a little skeptical about it.

I think when it comes to the issue of acceleration, different people seem to have different tolerances for it. I agree that some acceleration does not make a mouse unusable. What I meant by saying you can not get used to it, is that it seems almost impossible to consistently adjust for it perfectly, since there seems to be a random component to the "acceleration". Maybe it is not truly random, and instead dependent on the exact speed of the motion or something like that. I don't know if this is the case, or whether anyone has analyzed it to that extent.

It just feels like something I personally would not want to deal with ( I am talking about the neg accel that I experienced on cloth, not the slight pos. accel, that I honestly could not pick up on). And that was reflected in what I said. I am also quite sure that most people don't use a sensitivity as low as I do (500 dpi, windows sens 6/11, CS:GO 1.75, even lower in other games), and would therefore probably be more tolerant of it. I realize there are thousands of people out there who are completely satisfied with the G500's and G9X's etc. cloth or no cloth. And they should be. These mice perform well for most people, all things considered.
Edited by kazuyamishima - 2/20/13 at 3:10pm
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by aikYu View Post

Is not that I'm questioning you but do you have any non marketing test with proof that newer 9500/9800 mice haven't got acceleration?

Marketing? For what company? tongue.gif

You misunderstand. The 9500/9800 mice still have a small ~5% curve both below and beyond linear range.

He was referring to low IPS tracking on cloth surfacing which was a early issue that has been corrected for the most part. (Though highly surface dependant "as is") I used the Sensei merely as an example as many people own this mouse.
Edited by Skylit - 2/20/13 at 11:43pm
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

Marketing? For what company? tongue.gif

You misunderstand. The 9500/9800 mice still have a small ~5% curve both below and beyond linear range.

He was referring to low IPS tracking on cloth surfacing which was a early issue that has been corrected for the most part. (Though highly surface dependant "as is") I used the Sensei merely as an example as many people own this mouse.

Ah ok ok sorry biggrin.gif

I was just excited with the idea thumb.gif
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