[TPU] Current State and Future of AMD Radeon Graphics: Teleconference Transcript - Page 4

Originally Posted by Pantsu 

True it's gotten better lately, though for example the 100$ price bracket hasn't seen much in the way of improvement since the 5770. And at the same time the new gens seem to come with ever increasing price tags for high end. Now Titan releases with a 999$ price tag, a chip that's no different from what Nvidia used to release for half the price.

Originally Posted by Vengeance47 

I honestly don't get why people complain about the price of Titan. It is a SINGLE GPU card which looks to perform about 40% faster than a 7970GE in gaming PLUS we have no idea how huge its GPGPU performance numbers are.

Originally Posted by Vengeance47 

Why on earth do people expect the worlds fastest GPU to be value for money? Its totally illogical and not how the world works.

Sounds to me like a lot of people are complaining because they can't afford it. Afterall, just look at the car industry, TV's, even food/restaurants. If you want the best, you pay a PREMIUM for the PREMIUM product. You want a fast, stylish car? Go see how much a Ferrari, Lamborghini, or Pagani costs compared to other cars that aren't much slower. You want a top of the line 55" TV? You're looking at $3k+, you can get older model 55" Full HD displays for less than $800.....but they're not top of the line anymore. You want to buy an eye fillet steak? You pay significantly more for it than you do for rump steak.

I honestly don't get why people complain about the price of Titan. It is a SINGLE GPU card which looks to perform about 40% faster than a 7970GE in gaming PLUS we have no idea how huge its GPGPU performance numbers are. This is all coming in a single GPU package, with a 250w TDP (uses only ~20w more than the 7970GE) and will be the worlds fastest card for another year by the looks of it. How on earth can anyone possible complain about a premium product coming with a premium price? Its life people, get over it. The fact of the matter is that GK110 is an engineering marvel and rather than being bitter and snickering because you can't afford it, appreciate the absolutely amazing feat that Nvidia pulled off. After all, we all know GK110 was supposed to be the 680 and Nvidia could have put it into production if it made economical sense (which it didn't since GK104 i significantly cheaper to manufacture and had the performance).

Also something people are forgetting in this equation. "I want Titan to be $500 *cry*". Do you not realise how much more expensive a GK110 chip is to manufacture compared to GK104 or Tahiti XT? Have you seen the numbers and the die size etc? At $500, Nvidia would probably lose money on the GPU.

So seriously people, suck it up and appreciate Nvidia and Titan for what they have achieved using the SAME architecture as the GK104. How can anyone complain about a 40% performance increase on the same GPU architecture? Some of you people are ridiculous.

OT: From the brief look I took it basically seemed that they never really directly answered serious questions we want to know the answers too. Plus there wasn't really anything of value in that conference. Seems like AMD is feeling the heat and trying to justify their slow release schedule?

Originally Posted by mcg75 

Here's a thought.

If you think Titan is too expensive, stop whining and don't buy it. Plenty of others will buy it and be happy.

Having seen the transcript from this teleconference, my faith in Amd is quite shaken. The amount of stumbling over words when people were asking questions made them look bush league. Some of the comments were also outlandish as well. 7970ghz sold out on newegg when the game bundle came out? Really? LOL. That was the same time I started research on what 7970ghz I wanted. It was never sold out. You'd see a few instances where one brand was sold out but plenty of others in stock.

I didn't realize that taking childish veiled shots at the competition and telling fibs were what a teleconference consisted of.

Originally Posted by th3illusiveman 

The premium is too steep.

my opinion of this whole fiasco (you probably won't like it) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
well you were warned...

Originally Posted by Huzzbutt 

You see the samething with every generation change, a jump from one generations mid highend to the the next generation will cost you 400$ but the performance increase won't be double, not even 150% in most cases. Any GPU upgrade unless it's twice the performance can be seen as uneconomic:

GPU performance index at 100
GPU x Performance 100 cost 400$ GPU y performance 130 cost 400$ and so forth.