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I don't mind it being 8X to each slot when all are populated, But for configuration purposes if i plug a single card into any slot, I want it to be X16
It costs more to wire up every slot to x16. Also, is there an actual noticeable difference between x16 and x8 at PCIe 3.0? I've heard that there are some differences when benchmarking x16 and x8 at 2.0, but I doubt it makes any noticable difference with PCIe 3.0.
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Gigabyte got there game with the G1 sniper 3 board. classy black and green theme and great features for the price (like the PLX chip, dual NIC, LOTS of storage and a bit cheaper than the ASUS counterpart)
It also has a great VRM; though, not as good as the ultra durable 5 boards. The next gen G1 Killer boards will probably have IR3550 MOSFETs and it will be awesome.
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i'd add to that changeable color theme (which i guess would be done with changeable colored metal plates and/or RGB LED) OR White PCB board (and black accents)
The colors are usually an issue on these gaming boards. The only one I could think of that wouldn't be hard to accommodate would be the EVGA Z77 FTW; that was one nice looking board.
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It'll be interesting to see how this pans out, Personally My dream board would have..

4 FULL sized PCIE 3.0 X16 slots electrically and mechanically with a spare slot in between so it'd be 8 slots total used with 4 7970s spanked next to eachother (like my current)
you'd need a PLX splitter and an X79 chip to accomplish that. It probably wouldn't make any difference on PCIe 3.0, though.
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No onboard audio, No onboard video 8 Dimm slots (It'd have to be X79 or x99)
It'd need to be XL-ATX if you wanted a sound card and 4 graphics cards.
8DIMMs is useless for a gaming rig
Also, it should have at least SP-DIF, so that you can use DAC designed for that.
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Dual intel Nics, NOTHING LESS then dual intel nics
why would you need that for gaming? Also, the Arethos E2200 is more gimmicky, you need one of those. tongue.gif
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No chipset based sata controllers, Slap an LSI one on there
but aren't chipset based controllers the fastest and most reliable?
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16 phases for cpu 4-6 for Ram.


Imo that'd be a perfect board.
With IR3550 MOSFETs, I doubt you are going to need a doublery unless you are going for LN2 or something like that.
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It costs more to wire up every slot to x16. Also, is there an actual noticeable difference between x16 and x8 at PCIe 3.0? I've heard that there are some differences when benchmarking x16 and x8 at 2.0, but I doubt it makes any noticable difference with PCIe 3.0.
It also has a great VRM; though, not as good as the ultra durable 5 boards. The next gen G1 Killer boards will probably have IR3550 MOSFETs and it will be awesome.
The colors are usually an issue on these gaming boards. The only one I could think of that wouldn't be hard to accommodate would be the EVGA Z77 FTW; that was one nice looking board.
you'd need a PLX splitter and an X79 chip to accomplish that. It probably wouldn't make any difference on PCIe 3.0, though.
It'd need to be XL-ATX if you wanted a sound card and 4 graphics cards.
8DIMMs is useless for a gaming rig
Also, it should have at least SP-DIF, so that you can use DAC designed for that.
why would you need that for gaming? Also, the Arethos E2200 is more gimmicky, you need one of those. tongue.gif
but aren't chipset based controllers the fastest and most reliable?
With IR3550 MOSFETs, I doubt you are going to need a doublery unless you are going for LN2 or something like that.


Audio from gpu HDMI>Reciever Trumps any sound card out there, Phase change cooling for cpu, Hence the want for higher phases, LSI controllers tend to out do intel chipsets from what i've seen, And absolutely curb stomp amd and third party sata controllers.


One to connect to my NAS directly, The other to go direct to the network, I can saturate dual GigE easily


There are differances at higher resolutions, Remember the pcie bus also helps make up for the lack of communications bandwidth (The sli/crossfire connector)in quad gpu setups for both Nvidia and AMD

Why do i use this in gaming? I send my recordings straight to the nas straight after i've filled the raid array (Which doesn't take long at 2560x1440/120)
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There are differances at higher resolutions, Remember the pcie bus also helps make up for the lack of communications bandwidth (The sli/crossfire connector)in quad gpu setups for both Nvidia and AMD

It might make a bit more of a difference when running at 3x or 5x 2560x1600, but I doubt that 1% difference will actually be noticeable.

X79 has enough lanes already.
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It might make a bit more of a difference when running at 3x or 5x 2560x1600, but I doubt that 1% difference will actually be noticeable.

X79 has enough lanes already.

I can tell the differance between 110 fps and 120 fps, and that test was done with a single card, Not four.
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I can tell the differance between 110 fps and 120 fps, and that test was done with a single card, Not four.
I have a really really hard time believing that.
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It might make a bit more of a difference when running at 3x or 5x 2560x1600, but I doubt that 1% difference will actually be noticeable.

X79 has enough lanes already.

A test with one card isn't indicative of 3-4 cards, as there's a lot of inter-card communication done via the PCIe bus as well as the CFX/SLI bridges.
    
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I can tell the differance between 110 fps and 120 fps, and that test was done with a single card, Not four.
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A test with one card isn't indicative of 3-4 cards, as there's a lot of inter-card communication done via the PCIe bus as well as the CFX/SLI bridges.
I know this has gone completely off topic, but it would be interesting to see how much of a difference that would make.

There was an article on PCIe 3.0 vs 2.0 on HardOCP which showed that the gap between the two increased a bit between PCIe 3.0 and 2.0 with SLI and 3 way SLI, but some of that could also be attributed to the fact that they used Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge CPUs instead of just switching the PCIe generation on their motherboard.
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I have a really really hard time believing that.


You can have a hard time believing it or not, there are people out there with sensitive eyes, Most people can't tell the differance between 192kbps mp3's and uncompressed audio, Are you going to say you won't believe the audiophiles aswell?
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You can have a hard time believing it or not, there are people out there with sensitive eyes, Most people can't tell the differance between 192kbps mp3's and uncompressed audio, Are you going to say you won't believe the audiophiles aswell?
my eyes are to the degree sensitive that I can get a minor migraine from looking at a screen for more than an hour straight. I can tell differences, but I don't think they're going to be that close as to when you can tell. Don't need to be defensive.
Besides, that analogy wasn't close even IMHO
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You can have a hard time believing it or not, there are people out there with sensitive eyes, Most people can't tell the differance between 192kbps mp3's and uncompressed audio, Are you going to say you won't believe the audiophiles aswell?
That analogy isn't particularly great, if you can't tell the difference between 192kbps and uncompressed then you're pretty much deaf tongue.gif
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