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Thanks for pointing this out, not for the first time in this thread your responses and choice of words are dubious.

I have more than enough in my work and education background to understand regional markets and costing manufacture, and I suggested "selected boards," not all low cost models. I strongly suspect that some carefully chosen improvements, even for a small cost would appeal more broadly than themed boards. I've no doubt that G-series will have its' appeal, but it was you who mentioned gamers that don't overclock and buying on a more limited budget.

As for lower cost boards not having such finishes, my comments still stand: this is something that MSI could dramatically improve Aside from the Asrock example iirc Asus have had some very fine looking budget boards by using a two tone blue scheme that actually complements a brown PCB. Gigabyte also produce 'lesser' boards with deep colour finishes on the PCB, so don't tell me ugly boards are justified because of cost.

I am not slighting your comment and if it was taken that way, I apologize. That said, the background really is that simple and this is something that is overlooked a lot.

You plan on product segmentation, then figure out the feature(s) you want on a high-end board vs a low-end board, and go from there. Then it gets more detailed...

Your last comment hit it dead on: "don't tell me ugly boards are justified because of cost" <-- this basically sums up 90% of the manufacturing decisions made. Plus, everyone has their own preference on board design.

My comment on "gamers don't overclock" is a generalization, yes, but from a "building a PC" perspective, most people focus on the CPU and graphics card, and the motherboard is not high on the discussion list unless specific things were needed (overclocking being one of them). There's so many ways this discussion can be taken, and it's impossible to cover all the scenarios, but frankly we're doing this to improve on something.

Ultimately if one's upgrade cycle is dictated by new technology coming out (i.e. Z87 and practically everyone on OCN), ignore this entire thread. I remember when the Z77 MPOWER first came out, about half of the people I talked to (media included) hated yellow with a passion. Several months later, no one seems to care that it's yellow.
    
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is this a joke?
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So with the difference in costs/colors of PCB, does that affect performances in the long run any?
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So with the difference in costs/colors of PCB, does that affect performances in the long run any?

No, only aesthetics. (though you could say that the prettier the board the longer he lives tongue.gif )
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@MSIAlex, sorry can't quote your long post of replies easily on my phone. I was defending your product smile.gif
People are thinking they don't like the dragon design, equating it with gaming, maybe even go as far to put the title "gimmicky " on it, though I disagree, and immediately associate it with teenagers. Every time in public on TV ads or online and you see ads for anything gaming advertised, you see a kid under 21 usually. Thus people are associating this with gaming teenagers, as they think in a very egotistical matter that a teen who is "only considered about looking the coolest " will buy it and for the gaming title added to some of the features that they find useless.
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@MSIAlex, sorry can't quote your long post of replies easily on my phone. I was defending your product smile.gif
People are thinking they don't like the dragon design, equating it with gaming, maybe even go as far to put the title "gimmicky " on it, though I disagree, and immediately associate it with teenagers. Every time in public on TV ads or online and you see ads for anything gaming advertised, you see a kid under 21 usually. Thus people are associating this with gaming teenagers, as they think in a very egotistical matter that a teen who is "only considered about looking the coolest " will buy it and for the gaming title added to some of the features that they find useless.

I'm 24 myself, but I honestly love the dragon logo and image associated with the boards... I am a super nerd and geek but whatevs lol. I know it would cost more but I wish there were more OC features associated with the board. Hopefully MSI will implement them with future product lines associated with the Dragon Gaming Scheme.
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So with the difference in costs/colors of PCB, does that affect performances in the long run any?

No difference other than market preference and acceptance. The "base" color starts off based on the type of construction of the substrate itself.

Strongly suggest you guys read about it on Google... tons of info.
One of may links: http://www.madehow.com/Volume-2/Printed-Circuit-Board.html
    
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I remember when the Z77 MPOWER first came out, about half of the people I talked to (media included) hated yellow with a passion. Several months later, no one seems to care that it's yellow.

It's true. The angry people and the haters are always the loudest. It's impossible to please everyone anyway. If that was the goal, then mobo makers would be offering custom colored heatsinks/plates and designs you can replace on a new board.
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There are 14 y/o overclockers.

I started overclocking when I was 14 smile.gif
   
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It's true. The angry people and the haters are always the loudest. It's impossible to please everyone anyway. If that was the goal, then mobo makers would be offering custom colored heatsinks/plates and designs you can replace on a new board.

Well, it's not even that.

With the popularity of places to voice opinion (OCN, online reviews on Newegg, Twitter, Facebook, social media in general, etc), it's easy to add your opinion and sway someone else's opinion.

Take the MPOWER: why yellow? WHY NOT? Everyone associates MSI with our video card products first, and it's no secret that the Lightning video cards are top notch (or at least I'd like to think that way).

So why not play off that theme? Take something known as an enthusiast product, and brand another product in similar fashion.... and it's what we're doing with the Gaming series motherboards. Taking an existing product that signifies the Gaming segment, and brand it as such without having to come up with something from thin air.

For a car analogy, see "variable valve timing"..... and I can guarantee you, vast majority of those of us 30 or older will automatically think VTEC.

The young folks? They're lucky they didn't grow up learning about VTEC.

In any case, there's always those unhappy with this type of design/look. But we did what we could.



*** sidenote: someone else mentioned about making tweaks to entire product line(s), and to be honest it's just an evolution of what we had the past few generations. We can start making our stuff look... "better", but then you run into accusations about us copying someone else's design. You should see the comments I got for our 990FXA-GD80 board, and how we just "copied ASUS left and right"... in this industry, the suppliers are all the same and there's so little of them to make any difference.
    
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