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65fps in Valley at Ultra 8xMSAA 1920x1080 (essentially Extreme HD Preset) seems very low.
Look at the scores from here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1360884/top-30-unigine-valley-benchmark-1-0/0_30
Most overclocked 680s and 7970s reach about 50 fps average at those same settings...

He's running 1200p

He was doing 1137mhz at only 1.150v. Threw a ~150mhz OC on it and the voltage didn't even blink. And he was keeping the card at 80C with only 59% fan speed at that OC too. Must play with this thing. Must! 1.2Ghz will decimate all.

Does anyone know what a pair of 7970's run this bench at? At 1200p?
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Does anyone know what a pair of 7970's run this bench at? At 1200p?

I swear reviewers run benchmarks like this at stupid resolutions just to mess with us. There was no reason not to run at 1080p. I love 16:10, but c'mon if you're benching or trying to post results you should be using more mainstream resolutions.
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Transfered to new thread well that escalated quickly
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I had GTX 690 4-Way SLI in my ASUS P8P67 WS build with a 2700k at 5.1ghz. I have GTX 680 3-Way SLI in my ASUS X79 Sabertooth with a 3930k at 5ghz and have one of the GTX 690s from that previous build in another identical X79 Sabertooth build.

4-Way SLI does not scale as well as 3-Way SLI. It is faster though but isn't perfect or worth the price you pay for it. 3-Way is the sweet spot and in previous generations actually smoothed out and helped micro stutter in SLI and Crossfire systems. It did in my HD 6990 + HD 6970 system for sure. There were some reviews on it which actually confirmed it too.

Don't agree with the X79 micro stutter statement at all. That's a bunch of rubbish. Maybe in cheaper board designs but not in quality ASUS boards. I've had up to 4-Way SLI and crossfire in my current build and never experienced any microstutter with my final set-ups. I have experienced it with radeonpro pro and trying different settings with my Lightning set-up, but they were merely tests and radeonpro pro in the end actually reduces and eliminates microstutter with the right settings. So thats rubbish. Maybe people are getting confused with hitting VRAM limits, maybe something else is causing it but most probably they don't know what they are doing.

Microstutter was rampant last generation in the AMD line-up and in the GTX 590. AMD had some with the HD 7970 when it first are out but since has been fixed and radeonpro pro had it fixed for some time also. AMD cards are now smooth and the performance is shockingly good as we all know. They really turned stuff around since last generation which were a mess.

So no. Everyone screaming microstutter as a way to justify a Titan is misinformed. GTX 690s of all cards have built in preventative measures for this and the cards do not Exhibit from any noticeable microstutter. I've had two, have only one now and had since launch and it's an amazing card in that regard. The powercolor HD 7990 doesn't have any microstutter either. Had a Devil for a short while and it was a premium piece of equipment.

As for the rest of what he said Titan SLI overclocked will beat 3-Way GTX 680 and 3-Way Titan SLI reference will beat 4-Way GTX 680 at 1600P and above (as for 1080P, Lol, who cares). Even if it's only 30% faster. SLI doesn't always scale 100% when getting over two cards so it doesn't have a huge task ahead of it and with everything we've seen so far the Titan despite our worst fears seems like it will be a very fast card. Not faster than a GTX 690 at reference speeds but that was far too optimistic an assumption anyways. Maybe in some cases it could but overall I would doubt it and it definatly will not be worth the $1200-1600 price tag they put on them over here.

Finally someone else who hasn't experienced microstutter with Sli. Like you said it must be our quality board's. Thank you for the post with 690 sli experience.
 
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He was doing 1137mhz at only 1.150v. Threw a ~150mhz OC on it and the voltage didn't even blink. And he was keeping the card at 80C with only 59% fan speed at that OC too. Must play with this thing. Must! 1.2Ghz will decimate all.

Does anyone know what a pair of 7970's run this bench at? At 1200p?

Thats what i've been looking for.
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I don't get it, why is nvidia getting so expensive? The 680 launched at $500 and was barely slower than the gtx 590. Same case with the Titan and the 690.

The whole Geforce Titan to me is a confusing one as it really wasn't necessary for Nvidia to go that mad with horsepower in a single GPU. Why? It's nearest rival is the 7970 Ghz Edition or the much more expensive Ares 2 (Dual 7970 Ghz GPU).

When you combine how current single GPU cards are literally monstering the latest titles, it does make you ask that question. Why did they go this far?
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He was doing 1137mhz at only 1.150v. Threw a ~150mhz OC on it and the voltage didn't even blink. And he was keeping the card at 80C with only 59% fan speed at that OC too. Must play with this thing. Must! 1.2Ghz will decimate all.

Does anyone know what a pair of 7970's run this bench at? At 1200p?

Hey dph, did you see this one from Linus? Good cooling = higher turbo boost. And you can select whatever temp you want as max. Pretty sweet biggrin.gif

"GPU boost 2.0 doesn`t rely on the actual power the GPU is drawing, it relies on the temperature that the GPU is running at. Watercoolers for example would always run the 680s at very low temperature, but you would reach that power draw limit. So what happend is that the card would stop boosting up, it would stop overclocking itself any further.

Titan will not have that issue. If you keep the temperatures low, Titan will overclock itself very significally. So the baseclock of this guy is 836MHz, with a typical boost clock of 876MHz. However I`ve been told that a watercooled Titan without any further tweaking, without any manual overclocking, would be expected to run anywhere around 950MHz to 1GHz having done nothing because it will dynamically see that the card is not reaching temperatures thats gonna bother it and it will continue to add more voltage and more clock speed to the card til you reach that limit (temperature limit which you choose)"
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The whole Geforce Titan to me is a confusing one as it really wasn't necessary for Nvidia to go that mad with horsepower in a single GPU. Why? It's nearest rival is the 7970 Ghz Edition or the much more expensive Ares 2 (Dual 7970 Ghz GPU).

When you combine how current cards are literally monstering the latest titles, it does make you ask that question. Why did they go this far?

Because GPUs aren't beating the current top tier titles anymore.
    
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The whole Geforce Titan to me is a confusing one as it really wasn't necessary for Nvidia to go that mad with horsepower in a single GPU. Why? It's nearest rival is the 7970 Ghz Edition or the much more expensive Ares 2 (Dual 7970 Ghz GPU).

When you combine how current cards are literally monstering the latest titles, it does make you ask that question. Why did they go this far?

Go fire up and max out Far Cry 3, Sleeping Dogs, Hitman, Crysis 3 and then report back with your findings. On all 4 of these games my 690 is brought to its knee's. It gets the job done but there is plenty of room for improvement. Why is it always someone running a single 7970 saying this? Also why on earth are you running a x79 rampage board and that much ram but only running one gpu?
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When you combine how current cards are literally monstering the latest titles, it does make you ask that question. Why did they go this far?

Why not?

Advances push both sides, nVidia are now going to have to work to stay ahead - that means driver refinements, especailly for new releases. AMD are going to have to work to catch up - that means more powerful GPUs from them.

Hopefully AMD can answer the Titan at least to some extent. The 7xxx / 6xx gen has been great with both teams trading blows and prices tumbling as a result, on the AMD side at least. I could get used to this.
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