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Originally Posted by cookiesowns View Post

GK114 is simply a refresh of GK104, the bus width it's not going to change. Unless you want to sacrifice cores, rops, you name it for an extra memory controller? Hell no. There's simply not enough die size to go around on a GK1x4 based chip.

Is there a reason the die has to be the same size? The GF114 was bigger than the GF104, for instance, and the GF104 itself had two different bus widths (192 and 256). So it would certainly seem possible that they could up it to 384 if they wanted to.
Edited by Forceman - 2/19/13 at 5:24pm
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Maybe refresh the page? Maybe they posted an updated picture, because this is what I get at that link

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Whatever that test is seems to scale unrealistically poor with multiple GPUs...
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post #533 of 1636
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GK114 is simply a refresh of GK104, the bus width it's not going to change. Unless you want to sacrifice cores, rops, you name it for an extra memory controller? Hell no. There's simply not enough die size to go around on a GK1x4 based chip.
We know nothing about GK114 other than it's based on a Kepler architecture and is a 28nm chip.
There is no die size restriction to talk about yet.
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Whatever that test is seems to scale unrealistically poor with multiple GPUs...
Vantage is old. There is CPU bottleneck. Especially with a 3.3GHz CPU they are using for tests.
Edited by zalbard - 2/19/13 at 5:26pm
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Originally Posted by cookiesowns View Post

GK114 is simply a refresh of GK104, the bus width it's not going to change. Unless you want to sacrifice cores, rops, you name it for an extra memory controller? Hell no. There's simply not enough die size to go around on a GK1x4 based chip.

Die size can increase on a refresh:

GF104( 332 mm^2) -> GF114 ( 360 mm^2)
So unless NV comes out and say GK114 is going to be the same 294 mm^2 size as GK 104 it is too early to dismiss a memory bus change.
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I just hit 62FPS on Valley @ Extreme HD... 1080p
A few pixels less than 1200p but I paid the same price for both my GPU's new as one of these more than 2 years ago...

I hope to see much better benchmarks than this...

LOL let see here:

580SLI which you have score 34% better than a single GTX 680 with Unigine heaven
Say we remove 5FPS from that if you benched it on 1200p. The difference between your 580SLI and Titan will then be
65/57 = 14%

Say 680 get 100FPS
580SLI would get 100x1.34 = 134FPS
GTX Titan would get 134x1.14 = 152FPS

That makes a Titan roughly 50% better than 680 (152/100)

I`d say thats sounds just about right smile.gif
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It always baffles me why people refer to games that are already out when referring to new cards. Don't we buy video cards to play games that come out after we get the card and haven't played yet more than we do games that we have played already?

I don't understand the point you are trying to make.

If the current GPUs could handle current top tier titles then your statement would hold some relevance but since a single GTX 680 can no longer run any game maxxed at 1080P on a single screen, future titles are irrelevant and we need new GPUs. If you can't beat current titles, forget the newer more demanding titles we don't know anything about, focus on the technology in front of you and what's in the now.

And the only future titles I could see demanding enough resources to have any relevance would be ARMA3 and BF4. Both of which will have a hard time introducing us to new graphics technology that Crysis 3 doesn't have. The only thing they will have over it is scale.
    
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Is there a reason the die has to be the same size? The GF114 was bigger than the GF104, for instance.

Didn't say it would be the same, but I doubt they will significantly change it. I really doubt they will add in an additional memory controller, maybe refine it for faster clocks as well as better performance under interleaving ( 3GB, instead of 4GB ), wouldn't hold my breath though.
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Didn't say it would be the same, but I doubt they will significantly change it. I really doubt they will add in an additional memory controller, maybe refine it for faster clocks as well as better performance under interleaving ( 3GB, instead of 4GB ), wouldn't hold my breath though.

3GB on 256bit bus? whistle.gif

If they are adding cores up to 1920, they gonna need a wider memory bus. GTX 680 was a full GK104, not much left to do there
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3GB on 256bit bus? whistle.gif

GTX 660 Ti 3GB. Not saying it makes sense, but it can certainly be done.
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GTX 660 Ti 3GB. Not saying it makes sense, but it can certainly be done.

660Ti runs a 192 bit Bus. The quirky part about 660Ti Bus/Mem module configuration wasn't the 3GB model, it is the 2 GB model.
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