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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

I dont notice it. If ms is something like in FC3 thats terrible. Going from single to dual GPUs i cant tell the difference.

I definitely notice microstuttering, it becomes very very noticeable at anything less than ~55FPS for me. On my 680, 55FPS feels like 55FPS. On the 690 I was messing with, it felt like 30FPS. On my 5970 and 2x 8800GTXs it also felt like 30FPS. At 60FPS and above, I find it hard to notice any microstuttering on any setup... but it's those games that I couldn't quite run at a solid 60FPS that were annoying me.

If you have the power and can get 60+ FPS in every game.. you probably won't notice microstuttering.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

As I said earlier, I personally am okay with higher prices for flagship cards like Titan. Affordability means everybody will have the same setup which is boring. I like the fact that once my two Titans are installed and water cooled I will actually have a rig that I will not see in every other member's sig around here. Does that make me a bit of an ass? Probably, but oh well...

Bolded for effect.

Here's a recent history of high-end video cards I've purchased over the last 6 years:

8800 GTX: $550 - most expensive
HD 4870: $300 (wife's computer)
HD 5870: $400
HD 7870: $210 (wife's computer)
GTX 660 Ti: $280

The 8800 GTX was an awesome card. It was the Titan of 2006/2007. No other card since then has represented such a monumental leap forward in GPU technology from one generation to the next. Notice how that single GPU was $550. Back then, that was crazy expensive for a video card. There was somewhat of a backlash when it first came out, but people eventually got used to it and said "Oh well...."

But now it's ok to charge $1000 for today's 8800 GTX? And consumers such as yourself LIKE IT?!?!?!?

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post #653 of 1636
EMBRACE DEBATE...! like they say on the ESPN show First Take.
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I'm not spending the money for Titan, gonna be happy with GTX 780 I'm sure.
post #654 of 1636
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

I'm sure, but with 680's and 7970's literally everybody has them it seems. I bet dual Titans will be pretty rare. The usual guys will have them like Vega (he'll have four of course) but they won't be all over the place. Ask yourself this, would a Ferrari be anywhere near as cool if they were $30k and everybody had one?
I am not sure if this question was rhetorical, but if I get 2 Titans, it would not be for the "cool" factor, but it will be because I want the best performance for multi monitor set up at high resolution.
post #655 of 1636
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I definitely notice microstuttering, it becomes very very noticeable at anything less than ~55FPS for me. On my 680, 55FPS feels like 55FPS. On the 690 I was messing with, it felt like 30FPS. On my 5970 and 2x 8800GTXs it also felt like 30FPS. At 60FPS and above, I find it hard to notice any microstuttering on any setup... but it's those games that I couldn't quite run at a solid 60FPS that were annoying me.

If you have the power and can get 60+ FPS in every game.. you probably won't notice microstuttering.

Download the new EVGA PrecisionX 4.0 and enable frametimes and framerate and see for yourself if microstutter is causing it. You take a screen shot of 55FPS and 30ms and then you will infact be experiencing microstutter.
    
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post #656 of 1636
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I definitely notice microstuttering, it becomes very very noticeable at anything less than ~55FPS for me. On my 680, 55FPS feels like 55FPS. On the 690 I was messing with, it felt like 30FPS. On my 5970 and 2x 8800GTXs it also felt like 30FPS. At 60FPS and above, I find it hard to notice any microstuttering on any setup... but it's those games that I couldn't quite run at a solid 60FPS that were annoying me.

If you have the power and can get 60+ FPS in every game.. you probably won't notice microstuttering.

Your probably right and that why i tell people to not go SLI or CF with low end card. I dont have any game i get under 60fps. BF3 is the most demanding game i play and thats @ 100fps+.
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I dont prefer the 999.99 price. I'd be a lot happier with 799.99 but it's either pony up for Titan, Keep my Hawks till the 780 gets released or go with a 7970. Titan makes the most sense




Go bench at 1200p and then report what you scored.

82fps with 2 x HD 7970 @ 1125/1575.
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post #657 of 1636
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

I'm sure, but with 680's and 7970's literally everybody has them it seems. I bet dual Titans will be pretty rare. The usual guys will have them like Vega (he'll have four of course) but they won't be all over the place. Ask yourself this, would a Ferrari be anywhere near as cool if they were $30k and everybody had one?
So, following up your logic...
How high should the price become until it's not okay any more?
$1500? $3000? $10000?
What about people who make over a million a year? They want to feel unique, too!
So let's sell GTX 750 for 500$, GTX 770 for 2000$ and GTX 780 for 4000$ and if you want to SLI you have to pay $1000 more.
Sounds like a plan to me. You will feel unique with a 770, someone will feel even more unique with a 780.

Yep, that's right. It's pretty retarded and you need to learn to value your money. Got nothing else to spend it on?
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But now it's ok to charge $1000 for today's 8800 GTX? And consumers such as yourself LIKE IT?!?!?!?

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Agreed...
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Bolded for effect.

Hey, at least I'm not denying it! wink.gif
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I'm pretty angry right now, and here's why: MANY OF YOU have said you will be purchasing a Titan... or 3.

Why am I angry about this? Let me explain.


By saying that you're going to be purchasing a Titan, you have now told Nvidia that it is ok to sell their fastest single-GPU card at a price point of $1000. The last generation GF110, the GTX 580, sold for $500, and the die size was only a little bit smaller than GK110.

On top of this, the GTX 690, which is dual GK104's, is selling for $1000. Also, the GTX 690 is FASTER than the Titan. Do you understand what sort of poor value is represented by Titan? It takes poor value in the GPU market to a whole new level. At least the GTX 690 was almost twice as fast as a GTX 680. That means the value of the GTX 690 was pretty good. Not so with the Titan, though. You're getting WORSE performance at the same price as a GTX 690.

So thank you OCN for telling nvidia that it's ok to create a $1000 stock graphics card for the consumer market. We will be reaping the benefits of this decision for years to come. mad.gif

/rant
dude i've been saying this in soo many threads and all i got in return was some idiotic responses along the lines of "you're jealous because you can't afford it" or "it's because you're an AMD owner" totally missing the whole point. Doing stuff like this only hurts the PC industry in the long run.

Gotta give Nvidia some accolades for starting up such a potent hype machine, one that discards common sense. This card is such a rip off...
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Download the new EVGA PrecisionX 4.0 and enable frametimes and framerate and see for yourself if microstutter is causing it. You take a screen shot of 55FPS and 30ms and then you will infact be experiencing microstutter.

I don't have either of the dual GPU cards anymore or I would. tongue.gif
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